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Old 05-29-2013, 08:28 PM   #11
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Is the OP familiar with driving standard shift? I think some of the noises and vibrations from the DCT are because it is NOT a normal automatic but an automated standard shift. Some people inexperienced with standards and expecting the DCT to feel like a normal automatic may be disconcerted.
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Is the OP familiar with driving standard shift? I think some of the noises and vibrations from the DCT are because it is NOT a normal automatic but an automated standard shift. Some people inexperienced with standards and expecting the DCT to feel like a normal automatic may be disconcerted.
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Has anyone had success in resolving the automatic dual clutch transmission shudder issue? I now have 3,000 miles on my Focus and the shudder is still very noticeable in 1st gear when accelerating from a complete stop. I was told that it needed to break-in, but I think 3k miles should be more than enough.
Yes, I have. Had a pretty bad shudder around the same mileage as you. Did the five full throttle accelerations and it went away.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:39 PM   #14
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Is the OP familiar with driving standard shift? I think some of the noises and vibrations from the DCT are because it is NOT a normal automatic but an automated standard shift. Some people inexperienced with standards and expecting the DCT to feel like a normal automatic may be disconcerted.
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Actually, no, not this. Completely wrong for the majority of complainers. If you haven't experienced the shudder then you really can't comment.
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Is the OP familiar with driving standard shift? I think some of the noises and vibrations from the DCT are because it is NOT a normal automatic but an automated standard shift. Some people inexperienced with standards and expecting the DCT to feel like a normal automatic may be disconcerted.
I think Ford really shot itself in the foot not creating a series of videos showing, in detail, the difference between a DCT and a traditional automatic. Relying on people to know how a manual behaves (which is what most of these TSBs and videos on the DCT from Ford say) is kinda dumb in a market where ~96% of cars are automatics. This does nothing but confuse cases where the transmission is genuinely faulty and are rough/grindy because of contaminated clutches, failed gear sets, etc., and behaviour that is just "different".

(I think that the introduction of CVTs were equally blotched).

Personally, I moved from a MT to a Focus with a DCT, and I really don't notice the DCT operation noises some other people mention. If I'm in an echo-y garage with the windows down and the fan/radio off, I can barely hear the transmission shifting, but it's considerably quieter than shifts with the MT in my old car (and that was pretty quiet too).
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Actually, no, not this. Completely wrong for the majority of complainers. If you haven't experienced the shudder then you really can't comment.
My DCT will shudder at low speeds if I feather or hesitate on the throttle, which is a perfectly acceptable way to drive an automatic. It's hard to understand what the "majority of complainers" are talking about if grinding from an improperly assembled transmission and "a slight shudder from 1st to 2nd" (likely just a characteristic of a DCT) are mixed together as evidence of catastrophic failure.
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My DCT will shudder at low speeds if I feather or hesitate on the throttle, which is a perfectly acceptable way to drive an automatic. It's hard to understand what the "majority of complainers" are talking about if grinding from an improperly assembled transmission and "a slight shudder from 1st to 2nd" (likely nothing) are mixed together as evidence of catastrophic failure.

This again. What does everyone consider "shudder"? I understand grinding between gears is not normal, but a lagging or shaking at very low throttle is normal to me.
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This again. What does everyone consider "shudder"? I understand grinding between gears is not normal, but a lagging or shaking at very low throttle is normal to me.
I was using it as an example of something that seems broken to someone used to an automatic, but makes sense if you know how the DCT works (the transmission prefers constant throttle application, like a manual).
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Actually, no, not this. Completely wrong for the majority of complainers. If you haven't experienced the shudder then you really can't comment.
Your comment even if valid (which I don't grant) doesn't negate my assertion that some of this comes from people who don't know how a standard acts and feels. Note that in my post I used the word "some". I think my assertion is reasonable given the premise that standards have a different feel and sound than automatics and that a great many, perhaps most people have never driven a standard shift.
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I was using it as an example of something that seems broken to someone used to an automatic, but makes sense if you know how the DCT works (the transmission prefers constant throttle application, like a manual).
Sorry, I was agreeing with you. I failed to use proper punctuation between, "This again". It should have been... "This!... Again,".
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