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Old 04-29-2013, 02:55 PM   #71
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I also have the 294B kit, I know the PO used the 294A kit.....I wonder if the other guy that had his pop used the 294A or 294B......maybe there is some difference between the A-kit and B-kit that's causing the issue?
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:04 PM   #72
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I would say it's rare if it did happen. If common you'd be able to hear of the pending class action lawsuit or somesuch. I would think lunching motors would get Gates' attention lickety-split. Or so one would hope, nowadays, maybe not.

Rent, not saying anything to disparage you, would've been nice to see if tensioner still had its' springiness to it. Other than that it should've been obviously broken. Who knows? Something as rare as trash in bearing locks it for a millisecond, belt jumps then bearing peels back free to give no obvious clue what happened.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:01 PM   #73
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I would say it's rare if it did happen. If common you'd be able to hear of the pending class action lawsuit or somesuch. I would think lunching motors would get Gates' attention lickety-split. Or so one would hope, nowadays, maybe not.

Rent, not saying anything to disparage you, would've been nice to see if tensioner still had its' springiness to it. Other than that it should've been obviously broken. Who knows? Something as rare as trash in bearing locks it for a millisecond, belt jumps then bearing peels back free to give no obvious clue what happened.
FWIW, the mechanic initially retimed the car and it held while running a compression test, but obviously the car wouldn't run.

Update - car is 90% back together. I helped set the timing and torque down the cam gears (having someone help do this is crucial, 89 ft/lbs on the intake cam is a lot for one arm), everything lined up TDC after triple checking and whatnot. He probably has another 2 hours of reassembly before its good to go, hopefully I won't have to screw with P1381 & P1383 now.

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Old 04-30-2013, 09:48 AM   #74
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FWIW, the mechanic initially retimed the car and it held while running a compression test, but obviously the car wouldn't run.

Update - car is 90% back together. I helped set the timing and torque down the cam gears (having someone help do this is crucial, 89 ft/lbs on the intake cam is a lot for one arm), everything lined up TDC after triple checking and whatnot. He probably has another 2 hours of reassembly before its good to go, hopefully I won't have to screw with P1381 & P1383 now.

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Did you have the 1381/1383 codes active before the tensioner gave out?
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Did you have the 1381/1383 codes active before the tensioner gave out?
No, but I didn't take the cams loose when I did the belt. Given that the head has now been rebuilt, I'm crossing my fingers that the cam code gremlins avoid me.
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Got her back today. What a relief. No 1381 or 1383.

Went to Firestone and got my RE-11a's put on and an alignment. Was surprisingly out of spec for only a month and a half of driving.

I'll update this thread if/when I hear back from Gates.
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I'm in Fort Worth and could use some assistance on my 03 svt. I rebuilt the engine and can't seem to shake the timing gremlins myself (p1381 & 1383). Really frustrated with it. I know it has a lot of potential now with forged pistons and the vortech h.o. kit. Just can't get it timed right
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I'm in Fort Worth and could use some assistance on my 03 svt. I rebuilt the engine and can't seem to shake the timing gremlins myself (p1381 & 1383). Really frustrated with it. I know it has a lot of potential now with forged pistons and the vortech h.o. kit. Just can't get it timed right
In case you haven't seen it, >>this<< thread over at FJ is a gold mine of information about the 1381/1383 codes. When I changed my belt I followed the procedure they detail in that thread and I've driven ~3500 miles without throwing a code.
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In case you haven't seen it, >>this<< thread over at FJ is a gold mine of information about the 1381/1383 codes. When I changed my belt I followed the procedure they detail in that thread and I've driven ~3500 miles without throwing a code.
I was going to recommend this - I had it on standby for the mechanic if he ran into them.
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In case you haven't seen it, >>this<< thread over at FJ is a gold mine of information about the 1381/1383 codes. When I changed my belt I followed the procedure they detail in that thread and I've driven ~3500 miles without throwing a code.
Tried that procedure several times with no luck. Wondering if my vct solenoid or vct gear are faulty..
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