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Old 04-09-2013, 02:13 PM   #1
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So my car has been driving awesome for the last 2 years, but today something weird happened. I sped up in 2nd gear and got to around 6k rpms and when I put it in neutral to coast, the car died. I got some groceries, got in the car and tried it again thinking maybe I did something, but the exact same thing. I tried it in 1st gear and got my rpms to around 6k and it was fine.


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Also, the car turns on fine right after it happens like nothing ever happened. It just dies, then coasts and I turn it back on real quick. Accelerates normal and drives fine
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:57 PM   #4
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Check the fuel pump.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:11 PM   #5
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So my car has been driving awesome for the last 2 years, but today something weird happened. I sped up in 2nd gear and got to around 6k rpms and when I put it in neutral to coast, the car died. I got some groceries, got in the car and tried it again thinking maybe I did something, but the exact same thing. I tried it in 1st gear and got my rpms to around 6k and it was fine.

Also, the car turns on fine right after it happens like nothing ever happened. It just dies, then coasts and I turn it back on real quick. Accelerates normal and drives fine
It sounds like the engine is being starved for either: Air, fuel, or a spark to ignite them all.
It could be a lot of potential things. The fuel pump, the fuel filter (cheaper to replace!), dirty MAF, dirty throttle body, or a myriad of other things.

The fact that you say it runs fine, but will stall out, and then start up again fine like nothing happens makes me agree with wintuk. It is probably fuel related.

You should definitely look into replacing the fuel filter. They are generally in the $20 USD range.
According to my local auto parts stores costs, it falls closer around: $10.

You can also go to auto parts stores, and borrow (100% free! No tax) a fuel pressure tester, and use the schrader valve (if you have one) on your vehicle to check.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:38 AM   #6
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If it's running up to 6K then not fuel. He says it dies after letting off or going to neutral. Could be IAC or TB aircrack carboned up, which are supposed to take up idle throttle when letting off, or could be nothing. I used to hotrod both bikes and cars, sometimes dying after a hard pass was the norm, nothing wrong there at all other than whatever is supposed to maintain idle speed is not working as well as it should. The main reason for damping dashpots on oldschool carbs in the later '70s and '80s was this very thing. They simply made up a device that slowed the engine speed from dropping so fast, a 6000 to 700 rpm drop has a tendency to keep dropping, inertia, you know.
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If it's running up to 6K then not fuel. He says it dies after letting off or going to neutral. Could be IAC or TB aircrack carboned up, which are supposed to take up idle throttle when letting off, or could be nothing. I used to hotrod both bikes and cars, sometimes dying after a hard pass was the norm, nothing wrong there at all other than whatever is supposed to maintain idle speed is not working as well as it should. The main reason for damping dashpots on oldschool carbs in the later '70s and '80s was this very thing. They simply made up a device that slowed the engine speed from dropping so fast, a 6000 to 700 rpm drop has a tendency to keep dropping, inertia, you know.
So would you suggest just driving it for a few days and see if it continues?
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What a question. If you continue to zing the motor to 6k and let off, then expect the same result. Those things don't fix themselves.

My suggestion? Get one of these...........

'They simply made up a device that slowed the engine speed from dropping so fast'

It's called your right foot.................I've been doing it for 40+ years when the need shows. Basic physics, young jedi.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:30 AM   #9
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What a question. If you continue to zing the motor to 6k and let off, then expect the same result. Those things don't fix themselves.

My suggestion? Get one of these...........

'They simply made up a device that slowed the engine speed from dropping so fast'

It's called your right foot.................I've been doing it for 40+ years when the need shows. Basic physics, young jedi.
I don't normally do that though, but once in a while its fun to get the car going so I was confused why it happened
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Could be one thing, or a combination of many - Not a "normal" driving pattern as mentioned - and not uncommon in the particular circumstances.

As amc mentioned, the engine is slowing fast and tends to keep doing so in this circumstance. It's got ONE chance to "catch" before continuing to a stop, and the slightest "misfire" for example would be enough that it dies at that point.

Plugs/boots not quite perfect, an injector a bit dirty, IAC a little slow to respond, you could chase the issue quite expensively without solving it if all possiible suggestions were followed. That's probably a major reason for a lack of suggestions to "solve" the problem.

Drive it as is, see if it does anything similar at other times, consider "tune up" type maint. if not done recently (plugs, fuel filter) and see how it goes for now.

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