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Old 02-27-2013, 10:54 PM   #131
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lmao at the guys crying for a 35k price, in case you didnt know, the price of the mk2 RS in Mexico back in 2010-2011 was 38k, 35k-40k is VERY realistic.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:09 PM   #132
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lmao at the guys crying for a 35k price, in case you didnt know, the price of the mk2 RS in Mexico back in 2010-2011 was 38k, 35k-40k is VERY realistic.
VW Golf .:R $34K
Volvo C30 Polstar 30K
Audi A5 37K
BMW 3 39K
Ford Mustang GT 36K
Ford Focus ST 25K

40K buys more car than it did in 2010...
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:55 AM   #133
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I'd rather have a Golf R. Golf R's moving to the MQB platform along with its little brother (the GTI). And yes, there are ways around its stability control.
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:50 PM   #134
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I'd rather have a Golf R. Golf R's moving to the MQB platform along with its little brother (the GTI). And yes, there are ways around its stability control.
I like the Golf .:R, but I think I'd probably go with a Volvo C30 Polstar if we ever get a legit one --but the Polstar in the US is just a cool color on a normal C30. They left of the BBK, the better T5 bottom end, and the Haldex w/ a legit twin limited slip.

The next gen Golf .:R will be diesel, and THAT is tempting...

GTis are a complete and total waste of money for a number of reasons.

#1 The VW O2Q transmission is crap. Brass shift forks between gears 2&3 with rivets --when they inevitably blow the case is shot. THe OA4 and O2M are both better transmissions --the O2M can also blow, but the shift forks are 4-5 which is far less likely to be done quickly than the 2-3 shift.

ALL VAG DSG trannys have issues. The Chineese government said they were unsafe --and it's not like the Chineese usually complains about safety...

#2 The TSI motor was a quick release because of the problems with the first gen FSI --but the FSI was redone, rebadged TFSI, and is still better.

#3 Intake-exhaust-tune and a 2.5L is faster. By the time you spend $2k+ on a snail upgrade --shove a snail on the 2.5L which holds 400WHP on the stock internals. The 2.5L is actually stronger than the VR6 --there's a reason the TTRS uses the same block casting as a 2.5L --it's very similar to the left side of the Audi R8.

#4 The interior is nothing special. It's the same as the base models, and the Focus ST is more comfortable. The .:R models however are sexy AND more comfortable.

BTW I all this because I currently have a heavily modified 2.5L --that will be a 2.5T by the end of the year. I'm stopping at about 350WHP --because I want to keep the car looking like I did it with OEM+ parts. The only aftermarket parts in the whole turbo setup will be the manifold and throttlebody pipe. The internals are from a TTRS, downpipe and cat are coming off a TTS, The catback is from a GTi, the intercooler and snail from an Audi S3 and hoses off a Golf R as are most of my suspension parts --the brakes are coming off a Toureg 17Z --and they're 8-pot Brembos.

The coolset thing about VAG is OEM+. Th only easier company for OEM+ stuff is Volvo --with C30s you don't even have to do any welding to swap the AWD...
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:40 AM   #135
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Yeah, I wouldn't want to own a DSG box. They're cool and all, but from my understanding, not made to the same spec as the S-tronic units. Row my gears or cry some tears, I say.

The Golf R is one of the cars both my fiancee and I can agree on (we're both car nerds, so we're very passionate about the kinds of cars we like. I'm convinced I'm done for if we ever find an FD3S in our budget. There wouldn't be anything stoping the chaos).
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:56 AM   #136
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The Golf R is a pig in stock form. Its not any quicker than the GTI if you are driving under 100. The Focus ST is more fun and enjoyable in almost every way. It is also showroom poison. The last R needed $6000 in rebates to move metal. If they throw that much on the hood, I'll buy one, like I did with an R32.

I understand that with modifications you are looking at 300+ HP with a more solid driveline than a GTI, but for resale and durability sake, its best to keep an R model VW unmolested.
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The Golf R is a pig in stock form. Its not any quicker than the GTI if you are driving under 100. The Focus ST is more fun and enjoyable in almost every way. It is also showroom poison. The last R needed $6000 in rebates to move metal. If they throw that much on the hood, I'll buy one, like I did with an R32.

I understand that with modifications you are looking at 300+ HP with a more solid driveline than a GTI, but for resale and durability sake, its best to keep an R model VW unmolested.
Doesn't Tom tune 2012 STs to about 300WHP otherwise stock? I'd be driving one if Ford made a 3 door. I just can't bring myself to drive a 5 door --damn pillers are all up in my face, and it makes me feel old. I'm nearly 30, and I don't like remembering that...

In real world driving a 2.5L with an intake and a pulley running 93 outruns a GTi on 87. A GTi comes on these retardedly heavy wheels that slow it down horribly compared to any of the stock options on a 2.5L. I've got ultralights, and without an SRI, when I did my final drive I was already leaving GTis well behind me. My car won't be worth shit resale, but that's more from putting 40K miles a year on my cars than the mods IMO.

Also, I agree that a Golf .:R sucks stock. So did the 2008 .:R32. The 2004 .:R32 was epic stock, but I'd probably still rather have an SVT. Their biggest problem is that the stock Haldex controller is shit.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:41 PM   #138
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I'm also onboard for getting one of these if the price is right.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:39 AM   #139
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Using that conversion makes no sense. Cars are WAY more expensive in the UK. The Focus ST, ST1 pricing if converted from the UK to US would be as follows:

Current UK exchange rate is 1.58 US dollars to a British Pound. At £21,995 in the UK using the exchange rate would be $34,752 for an ST1 Focus ST in the U.S.

That's almost $10k off. I'm guessing the RS starts low 30s before options.
I'll re-quote this as too many people throw out prices based on other countries prices. Which aren't even or fair. Exchange rates and comparing prices of things like the ST here and the UK give a better idea of what it will cost.

The last Focus RS sold for 24k in pritish pounds. Using the echange rate that would be $37890... But here is the catch. The ST there costs $34752, and ours costs $24450. So...

Our ST costs about 70% of what their ST costs. (24450/34752 = .703)

Using that as a base, the last RS would have cost $26636 as a base. (Remember the last RS was significantly cheaper than the new one will be, as the MK2 ST was cheaper too.)

As I stated before low 30s isn't out of the question based on the above math I don't think.
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really hoping these come to the us!!!!
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