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Old 03-13-2013, 11:38 AM   #321
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The only reason to prime the filter is so you don't have to run the engine for a few minutes after initial fill, stop it, pour another half quart or so to replace was the filter was filled with, check it, start it back up, stop it, check it again, etc.

It eliminates that middle step.
Priming an oil filter helps to reduce the metal-to-metal wear that occurs from a dry-start.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:45 AM   #322
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Any oil that meets Ford spec WSS...945 (see your manual) is fine. And Mobil1 5w/20 is one of those.

There are precious few synthetics in the US market based on the old definition of a synthetic, Amsoil being one. However, Mobil, Valvoline, most Pennzoil, Quaker State, Castrol, etc. synthetics are made out of crude oil subject to extra steps in the refining process. They are of higher quality than conventional oils and perform better in extreme conditions and are capable of longer oil change intervals. So is Mobil1 as good as a "true" synthetic? Just about, and at an affordable price.
The only way any oil, (regardless of its base stock), is safely capable of extended drain intervals is if it's specifically formulated for the rigors of extended drain service. If we check the drain intervals of the so-called, "synthetic oils" mentioned above, we find they are precisely the same as their dead dinosaur/petroleum oil brethren.

The, "old definition of a synthetic", millions feel is the correct definition. German motorists don't like being deceived, or played for fools and in Germany it's illegal for any Group III oil to be termed a synthetic oil. At least the Germans have it right!
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The only way any oil, (regardless of its base stock), is safely capable of extended drain intervals is if it's specifically formulated for the rigors of extended drain service. If we check the drain intervals of the so-called, "synthetic oils" mentioned above, we find they are precisely the same as their dead dinosaur/petroleum oil brethren.

The, "old definition of a synthetic", millions feel is the correct definition. German motorists don't like being deceived, or played for fools and in Germany it's illegal for any Group III oil to be termed a synthetic oil. At least the Germans have it right!
Just took the plunge, I just got my 'Preferred Customer' ID from Amsoil today (ordered Sat.). I just now ordered the By-Pass kit and all needed components including the oil (I used Unleashed Beasts, list of parts and added the sampling pump). Grand total including taxes and shipping $420.00

I have a list w/prices if anyone wants to see it.
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Priming an oil filter helps to reduce the metal-to-metal wear that occurs from a dry-start.
Yes I understand that's one side of the argument. I tend to go with the other side that believes the oil film coating the engine internals since the last run is enough to protect everything during the split second the oil first goes through the filter and into the engine.

Plus I don't like to send unfiltered oil straight out of the bottle directly onto my bearings and pistons.
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Yes I understand that's one side of the argument. I tend to go with the other side that believes the oil film coating the engine internals since the last run is enough to protect everything during the split second the oil first goes through the filter and into the engine.

Plus I don't like to send unfiltered oil straight out of the bottle directly onto my bearings and pistons.
I have heard some horror stories concerning oil straight from the can but, when I worked in hydraulics we filtered the oil in the drum for at least two days before putting it into storage. The filter cart ran a 3 micron absolute filter and they hadn't changed it in 5 years, when we decided to do so it looked good as new. We were using Mobil DTE24 so maybe premium manufacturers do a better job.

The instructions for the Amsoil kit says to prefill the filters but I assume they trust their own oil. I do agree with you, evidence absent to the contrary that the existing oil film in the engine should be sufficient to protect the engine during initial startup in an already lubed engine.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:18 AM   #326
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We had our first Oil change at the Dealer at 3000 , next change due at 8000

it has 7100 on it and the change oil monitor came on today, ?

is it possible they did not reset it at first change ?
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We had our first Oil change at the Dealer at 3000 , next change due at 8000

it has 7100 on it and the change oil monitor came on today, ?

is it possible they did not reset it at first change ?
They must not have reset it. I change at 7500 (DIY) and I've never had the light come on. What kind of driving do you do? I think a lot of stop start and cold running will influence the monitor, but still.

BTW, it's a easy reset. Just turn the key on and press the brake and accelerator to the floor and hold them down until the reset indicator shows up on the screen by the speedo.
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Amsoil 'Dual Remote Oil Bypass' Install

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Amsoil 'Dual Remote Oil Bypass' Install -
Got home from work, second shift, Kit has arrived
Opened all boxes and looked at all parts (Cool)
I got the kit, filters, oil (2 Gal. SS 5W-20) and sampling pump
Damn, the sampling pump bottle is "Sold Separately" !&$@, the thing can't be used without one, why wasn't at least ONE included, sigh, add to list. Use tubing only once, sigh, add to list, Smile-some included!
OK, got parts, now the install:

Mounting Bracket - beats me, got a PM sent to UnleashedBeast... When he gets done with those worthless time wasters like family, job, porn and having time for his own ride he may just condescend to answer a poor newbies question, sigh, other peoples priorities just leave me waiting, waiting...

Whining complete for the moment. Next, the really interesting 'questions':
!!!OPINIONS WELCOME!!!

Some like it 0W-20 in cold weather, why? (I did read the corvette post about viscosity and temperature, just so know - do you live in Canada?)

Seems like 5W-20 is the G spot for rated Viscosity on our engines. All opinions welcome, I like a good rant now and then.

Some like it 10W-30 is it just because you want it that way?

Some like it 20W-50 Vroom vroom, racing anyone?

Filtration Standards: This is intended to be more techy but crack pots are welcome also:
I haven't seen it raised recently (I have at least 40 hours in this Forum now and the search feature is a bummer to use, it returns thousands of threads and posts which I am sure the old farts remember when clued in but those of us who have NEW vehicles just want to find)
I want OPINIONS. And Facts, if available:

Standard filters are about 25 Microns 'relative'. Note, Relative is in quotes.

Is there any benefit in filtering engine oil to below this level?
Disclosure: I have the above mentioned By-Pass kit, my views are known so please don't accuse me of being biased, that point is already proven

Does anyone have any thorns concerning levels (of whatever) that are acceptable/not acceptable?

Who is your favorite oil analysis firm? This I really want/need to know soon

More questions forthcoming when my eyes can Focus...

Think up your own questions, post here as far as I know
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Plus I don't like to send unfiltered oil straight out of the bottle directly onto my bearings and pistons.
What do you think happens when you pour 4+ quarts in to the fill hole? It doesn't end up in the oil pan without touching anything.
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