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Old 03-07-2013, 05:13 PM   #51
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Well....I would splice in those lights atleast with some quick connects, say blue. But, I don't see where this would cause the engine to stall. You have to make sure with those type of battery post connectors.....you get'em tight...( I know you know that) and remove and clean all KNOWN ground wires to the chassis. Shoot, man, that wiring job on the trunk lid....well...'stinks'......lol.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:14 PM   #52
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i let the car go for a few hours the other night and noticed the anti theft light was blinking so i tried to start it,cranked over and ran for about a minute then cut off, tried again ran for maybe thirty seconds,tried again nothing,no clicking either
Do you think that you're having a PATS issue bro?
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:30 PM   #53
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yeah i was not impressed with the wiring job wish i had seen it sooner but im going to take care of it asap, I'm going to look at all the grounds tomorrow and clean everything again. i have no idea about the pats system but i guess i can research that as well
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:46 PM   #54
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Is your car atx-or- mtx
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:07 AM   #56
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Check that the gear selector when attempting to start the engine....wiggle, etc., maybe the neutral safety switch.....But, I would also check these relays and fuses:

Under hood Central Junction Box;
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R17-Starter
R1-Ignition.....any one of these could cause the issues you're having with faulty wiring to the relay in the CJB -or- a bad relay itself.

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1- 40A....main power supply to the electrical system
7- 40A.... same as above
8- 30A...ignition switch, starter
10- 10A (2.0L) Battery Voltage Sensor......hey, that's what it says....
Check these out, if you already haven't. With the relays I would swap them around with one of the same type (pin). Also, check for voltage at R17 & R1, as well as ground. These relays should have power directly from the battery at ALL times. Usually though, the relay itself has corrosion inside.....another thing is when cranking....they will be unusally hot... Do the ford wiggle test! KOEO, KOER..blah, blah.
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Your Photos

After looking over your photos, you appear to need some additional work.

PHOTOS 1, 2, 3 & 4:
Very poor job of making connections.
ACTIONS: I would not worry about modding your 3rd taillight right now. Just restore it to the stock configuration. After you get it running then work on the mods.

PHOTO 6:
A) The entire connector seems to coated in some with powder.
B) The top cable: connector poorly crimped
C) Center Cable: The clamp plate is coated in white powder which appears to extend into the inside of the cable.
D) Bottom Cable: Poor crimp connection and powder appears to extend into the inside of the cable.
ACTIONS: Replace all 3 cables and the negative battery cable connector. When you reconnect the new cable to neg battery post use dielectric grease. Also use dielectric grease at the connection point on the other ends of the cables.

PHOTOS 7&8:
A) One cable looks recently cleaned and reattached with a rusty fastener.
B) The other cable has not had and maintenance and is attached with a rusty fastener.
ACTIONS:
1) I assume that the bigger cable runs to the battery and will be replaced in photo 6 action items. When you install the replacement use a new fastener and dielectric grease.
2) Not sure if the smaller cable will be replaced in photo 6 action items. The connection needs to be cleaned as the bigger cable is, then attached using a new fastener and dielectric grease.

PHOTOS 9&10:
I see traces of green corrosion and white powder. Not sure if I see traces of rust or not.
ACTIONS:
1) Whether or not the cables need replacing depends on whether or not the corrosion extends underneath the insulation. If it does then replace the cables. Be very critical in your assessment.
2) When you reconnect the cables (both ends) you want everything bright & shinny, Use dielectric grease & no rusty fasteners.


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Photo 6 yeah i did the baking soda and water trick but didn't clean it up so well, will redo it again(that's the white powder) but I'm thinking I'll go with your plan to just replace it all.

Photo 7&8 yeah i never messed with them I'm thinking they were worked on when the shop redid the license plate lights but the larger cable is attached to the main cable so it would be replaced when the main cable is

Photo 9&10 I will check out the cable more to see if it needs replaced

so i will pick up the grease and new hardware, i know the cables were replaced when the starter was put in but as you said everything was done poorly so time to take care of that. again you have been very helpful milton it's greatly appreciated and bobby i will take a look tomorrow and let you know what i find out
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redid the cleaning of the wires scrubbed them longer and did it 3 times,cables are much cleaner no white residue picked up some dielectric grease,also how does one go about fixing the poor crimp job? i plan on picking up new fasteners to replace the rusty one's asap
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