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Old 03-10-2013, 03:31 AM   #301
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Yes, there are in an absolute sense, stupid questions (why don't things fall upwards?). But my greater point being, that I'd rather someone feel embarrassed for a moment for having asked something that may have been asked before, or sound obvious because of inexperience and get a good answer--or be directed to it--than not asking because they're afraid of feeling stupid.


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Again, agreed.
I had thought that my post was humorous and not dismissive but I can see in 20/20 hind site that some may not have seen it that way, you, in particular, since it was your post that I quoted in my reply.

Be it known throughout the land that I was not intending to insult or be dismissive of newby questions. I am a newby here myself and my questions, as I stated, may have been asked 100 times. I was thanking everyone, in my own way, for answering.

Another question - Is anyone gathering these reports together and putting them into a spreadsheet for analysis? I know Beast, is doing it in another forum but is anyone doing it here?
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No doubt Amsoil is a fine oil, but one thing any oil or filtration system can't do much to combat is fuel dilution. DI engines like the Focus are prone to fuel dilution of course and we don't have a ton of real-world experience to gauge how big an issue this will be for us. I detect a little gas odor whenever I check the oil, which makes me wonder.
So far, I haven't had an issue with fuel dilution at all. The last UOA using Amsoil Signature Series 5W-20 and the bypass oil filtration system performed very well. Here is the UOA. First sample was the OEM Motorcraft 5W-20 fill. Second sample was Amsoil with bypass filtration. This oil is still in my car today and will be tested again at 10,000 miles or more. You can see that TBN is strong and wear metals are very low.






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My point is, before you run 25,000 miles or two years, I would sure suggest a used oil analysis to make sure all is well in there. Blackstone sells a neat pump that can extract a sample size via the dipstick tube.
I will test the lubricant every 5,000 miles. When the TBN nears 1.0, or Oxidation rises rapidly, or wear metals peak....I will change it. This is a test to see how long/miles that requires.

Amsoil has a pump as well, and I use it frequently on more than just my Focus.

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[QUOTE=UnleashedBeast;4629142]So far, I haven't had an issue with fuel dilution at all. The last UOA using Amsoil Signature Series 5W-20 and the bypass oil filtration system performed very well.



I see where you mounted the bypass, how much trouble was the mounting? I looked at my car this morning and it is rather close to the exhaust manifold but there is a heat shield, any issues? Were the supplied hoses long enough? What adapter did you use (13/16-16?) and did you need one or two of those? Any trouble changing the filter (I know you haven't done it yet but from the picture I can't really tell how much room there is to remove them).

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I see where you mounted the bypass, how much trouble was the mounting? I looked at my car this morning and it is rather close to the exhaust manifold but there is a heat shield, any issues? Were the supplied hoses long enough? What adapter did you use (13/16-16?) and did you need one or two of those? Any trouble changing the filter (I know you haven't done it yet but from the picture I can't really tell how much room there is to remove them).

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It's far less than $500.00, see the link below. I posted details about it in this thread.

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I haven't changed the filters yet and that won't happen for at least another year. The hoses were just long enough. You get 12' of hose. I cut that in half (two 6' pieces), and used all of it except for 4" off each hose.

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The engine oil that is first put in your car from the factory is called break in oil. It contains additives and micro particles to help smooth off rough edges in your engine.
FOR THIS REASON YOU SHOULD KEEP THE OIL IN YOUR CAR FOR 5,000 MILES, and only 5,000 miles.
The next changes you can use synthetic, and spread out the oil changes to every 8,000 miles.
Smaller engines like compressors require oil changes after 5 hrs, for the same reason
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The engine oil that is first put in your car from the factory is called break in oil. It contains additives and micro particles to help smooth off rough edges in your engine.
FOR THIS REASON YOU SHOULD KEEP THE OIL IN YOUR CAR FOR 5,000 MILES, and only 5,000 miles.
The next changes you can use synthetic, and spread out the oil changes to every 8,000 miles.
Smaller engines like compressors require oil changes after 5 hrs, for the same reason
ohhh micro particles...
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The engine oil that is first put in your car from the factory is called break in oil. It contains additives and micro particles to help smooth off rough edges in your engine.
FOR THIS REASON YOU SHOULD KEEP THE OIL IN YOUR CAR FOR 5,000 MILES, and only 5,000 miles.
The next changes you can use synthetic, and spread out the oil changes to every 8,000 miles.
Smaller engines like compressors require oil changes after 5 hrs, for the same reason
Can we all agree this post is retarded?
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The engine oil that is first put in your car from the factory is called break in oil. It contains additives and micro particles to help smooth off rough edges in your engine.
FOR THIS REASON YOU SHOULD KEEP THE OIL IN YOUR CAR FOR 5,000 MILES, and only 5,000 miles.
The next changes you can use synthetic, and spread out the oil changes to every 8,000 miles.
Smaller engines like compressors require oil changes after 5 hrs, for the same reason
Yeah, I'm going to have to go with no on this one.

Factory fill is the exact same Motorcraft 5W20 semi synthetic oil that they use at the dealership for service or for the quicklane servicing. Its not special. Almost no manufactuers use special break in oils any more, maybe 30 years ago, but not today.
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Almost no manufactuers use special break in oils any more, maybe 30 years ago, but not today.
However, a Honda spokesman says its cars come from the factory with a special oil formulation for the break-in period. Honda advises owners to not change the oil early. Stark said Blackstone Laboratories' test of Honda's break-in oil shows it contains molybdenum-disulfide, an anti-wear additive. But Stark said Honda is the only manufacturer he knows that's using special break-in oil. The take-away? If there are any special break-in recommendations from the manufacturer, follow them. And consider analyzing the oil at 3,000 miles.

http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/top-...motor-oil.html
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