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Old 03-03-2013, 10:39 PM   #31
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ok listen i asked and several people gave me different idea's, i took everyone's ideas and tried most of them out, i never said anybody was wrong in what they told me heck i figure the more ideas i get the better options i have to go with. it's the way people answer however it's water under the bridge and thanks for the ideas i will take the battery back and follow your methods above when i return it milton and post the results
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Bobby you didn't do anything wrong lol. I took the battery to advance but the tester was being used, i told them what you guys posted here and they took the battery back to be charged so i will be picking it up by 4pm(said it only takes 4hrs to charge) also whats the best cleaner or method to clean up the connectors and wires? i figured i can clean everything now while i wait on the battery
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ok did the baking soda/water trick scrubbed it all down cables look better,went to get the battery had it tested and printout showed the battery was good,installed it and yep nothing..i think the clicking is the door chime that doesn't have enough power to actually sound. so replace cables?
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Look, no one is trying to bust your b---s, just trying to point to a logical procedure that will help you arrive at a solution. So far when we told you to the battery, you said the battery was good, then we said to check the cables you said the cables were good. You remain convinced the starter is bad and the only thing jumping the car proved was that the starter is good. What you want to do is prove that you have a good power source connected to a good power distribution system. So do the following:
1) Remove you battery
2) Take it to the local AutoZone / auto parts store and have it tested, including load testing.
3) If it proves good then ask them to fully charge it.
4) If it proves bad have it replaced.
5) Have the replacement tested including load testing.
6) If it proved good ask them to fully charge it.
7) if it proves bad go to step 4.

OK, now you have a proven good power source. Now let's make sure you have a good power distribution system.

1) Take the battery to your car but do not install it.
2) Examine the negative battery cable connector. Is there any signs of corrosion on the connector or the wire entering the insulation? Clean and/or replace cable as required. Connector should be bright, shiny and clean.
3) Trace the other end of the negative battery cable to it's attachment point. Disconnect it and examine the cable connector. Is there any signs of corrosion on the connector or the wire entering the insulation? Clean and/or replace cable as required. Connector should be bright, shiny and clean. Reattach that cable end.
4) Repeat step 3 for all other wires that attach the the negative battery cable connector.
5) Examine the positive battery cable connector. Is there any signs of corrosion on the connector or the wire entering the insulation? Clean and/or replace cable as required. Connector should be bright, shiny and clean.
6) Trace the other end of the positive battery cable to it's attachment point. Disconnect it and examine the cable connector. Is there any signs of corrosion on the connector or the wire entering the insulation? Clean and/or replace cable as required. Connector should be bright, shiny and clean. Reattach that cable end.
7) Repeat step 6 for all other wires that attach the the positive battery cable connector.

At this point point you have taken steps to prove you have a good power source and a good power distribution system. So now install the battery. Try and start the car. If the car runs, enjoy it. If it does not then proceed from there taking logical steps according to the symptoms.Good luck.
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I wasn't refering to you......does it crank and run now?
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:17 PM   #35
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... 2001 Automatic Zetec Sedan...
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ok did the baking soda/water trick scrubbed it all down cables look better,went to get the battery had it tested and printout showed the battery was good,installed it and yep nothing..i think the clicking is the door chime that doesn't have enough power to actually sound. so replace cables?
Well that's a bummer. You'll have to find where the issue is. Here a a link to you 2001 Ford Focus Starting Diagram:
2001 Ford Focus Starting Diagrams

Print out the diagram for your 2001 Zetec ATX, grab your volt meter and start checking. Start at the battery and work your way out from there. Personally I would start by checking to see if you're getting 12v to your starter. If you are not then next check the fuses. If they are good then start at the battery and then work your way out from there.

Good luck.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:44 PM   #36
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Check your grounds ---- this on the odo is an indicator of a grounding issue with the computer. I've seen it posted before.
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ok gonna use that diagram hopefully i find the problem soon,thanks again everyone
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:37 AM   #38
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Check your grounds ---- this on the odo is an indicator of a grounding issue with the computer. I've seen it posted before.
He says he already checked his grounds.
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He should make sure his grounds are making good contact by cleaning them. Where they connect to the body I would suggest going as far as scraping the paint in the little area underneath.
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He should make sure his grounds are making good contact by cleaning them. Where they connect to the body I would suggest going as far as scraping the paint in the little area underneath.
He was given detailed instructions on doing just that, see below. He says he did it.

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Look, no one is trying to bust your b---s, just trying to point to a logical procedure that will help you arrive at a solution. So far when we told you to the battery, you said the battery was good, then we said to check the cables you said the cables were good. You remain convinced the starter is bad and the only thing jumping the car proved was that the starter is good. What you want to do is prove that you have a good power source connected to a good power distribution system. So do the following:
1) Remove you battery
2) Take it to the local AutoZone / auto parts store and have it tested, including load testing.
3) If it proves good then ask them to fully charge it.
4) If it proves bad have it replaced.
5) Have the replacement tested including load testing.
6) If it proved good ask them to fully charge it.
7) if it proves bad go to step 4.

OK, now you have a proven good power source. Now let's make sure you have a good power distribution system.

1) Take the battery to your car but do not install it.
2) Examine the negative battery cable connector. Is there any signs of corrosion on the connector or the wire entering the insulation? Clean and/or replace cable as required. Connector should be bright, shiny and clean.
3) Trace the other end of the negative battery cable to it's attachment point. Disconnect it and examine the cable connector. Is there any signs of corrosion on the connector or the wire entering the insulation? Clean and/or replace cable as required. Connector should be bright, shiny and clean. Reattach that cable end.
4) Repeat step 3 for all other wires that attach the the negative battery cable connector.
5) Examine the positive battery cable connector. Is there any signs of corrosion on the connector or the wire entering the insulation? Clean and/or replace cable as required. Connector should be bright, shiny and clean.
6) Trace the other end of the positive battery cable to it's attachment point. Disconnect it and examine the cable connector. Is there any signs of corrosion on the connector or the wire entering the insulation? Clean and/or replace cable as required. Connector should be bright, shiny and clean. Reattach that cable end.
7) Repeat step 6 for all other wires that attach the the positive battery cable connector.

At this point point you have taken steps to prove you have a good power source and a good power distribution system. So now install the battery. Try and start the car. If the car runs, enjoy it. If it does not then proceed from there taking logical steps according to the symptoms.Good luck.
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