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Old 02-28-2013, 11:33 AM   #261
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If it were negligible, people wouldn't be bothering to prime the oil filter. When the oil system loses all its pressure during an oil change and then the engine is started, metal-to-metal wear is going on that an engine never see's at any other time in its life. Excessive oil changes does an engine no favors.
No, I'm saying that it's negligible if you prime the filter. It's not something to worry about. I'd be more worried about what is in the oil via oil analysis and the oil level. It's more like, excessive oil changes does your wallet no favors.
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If it were negligible, people wouldn't be bothering to prime the oil filter. When the oil system loses all its pressure during an oil change and then the engine is started, metal-to-metal wear is going on that an engine never see's at any other time in its life. Excessive oil changes does an engine no favors.
The only reason to prime the filter is so you don't have to run the engine for a few minutes after initial fill, stop it, pour another half quart or so to replace was the filter was filled with, check it, start it back up, stop it, check it again, etc.

It eliminates that middle step.
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So I've read in here that Mobil1 isn't true synthetic. I've been using it for some years now in my truck. If this is the case, what is recommended? I also see people running 5W-20. I haven't ran out to the car to grab the manual and read, but I will soon. But back to the main question, what's the recommended oil? Motorcraft?
Any oil that meets Ford spec WSS...945 (see your manual) is fine. And Mobil1 5w/20 is one of those.

There are precious few synthetics in the US market based on the old definition of a synthetic, Amsoil being one. However, Mobil, Valvoline, most Pennzoil, Quaker State, Castrol, etc. synthetics are made out of crude oil subject to extra steps in the refining process. They are of higher quality than conventional oils and perform better in extreme conditions and are capable of longer oil change intervals. So is Mobil1 as good as a "true" synthetic? Just about, and at an affordable price.
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So I've read in here that Mobil1 isn't true synthetic. I've been using it for some years now in my truck. If this is the case, what is recommended? I also see people running 5W-20. I haven't ran out to the car to grab the manual and read, but I will soon. But back to the main question, what's the recommended oil? Motorcraft?
Ford will tell you Motorcraft, but in reality, you only need to meet or exceed the Ford specification WSS-M2C945-A. For warranty purposes especially, you want to make sure of this - there would be few things worse than getting a warranty claim on an engine denied because a non-approved oil was used.

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Just to show how far oil technology has come, Pennzoil *conventional* oil meets that standard. Now I'm in the full-synthetic camp, but I'm just throwing that out there to show that there are plenty of oils from which to choose.

Personally, I would go with at least what the factory filled it with...semi-synthetic.

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Ford will tell you Motorcraft, but in reality, you only need to meet or exceed the Ford specification WSS-M2C945-A. For warranty purposes especially, you want to make sure of this - there would be few things worse than getting a warranty claim on an engine denied because a non-approved oil was used.

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my local dealers do synthetic changes for $30. that's just a few $ more than the oil and filter itself. can't compete with that.
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No, I'm saying that it's negligible if you prime the filter. It's not something to worry about. I'd be more worried about what is in the oil via oil analysis and the oil level. It's more like, excessive oil changes does your wallet no favors.
Based on my almost 30 years in the automotive repair/maintenance industry, metal-to-metal wear inside an engine is very much something to worry about and can cause accelerated engine wear. Excessive oil changes do an engine no favors.
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Any oil that meets Ford spec WSS...945 (see your manual) is fine. And Mobil1 5w/20 is one of those.

There are precious few synthetics in the US market based on the old definition of a synthetic, Amsoil being one. However, Mobil, Valvoline, most Pennzoil, Quaker State, Castrol, etc. synthetics are made out of crude oil subject to extra steps in the refining process. They are of higher quality than conventional oils and perform better in extreme conditions and are capable of longer oil change intervals. So is Mobil1 as good as a "true" synthetic? Just about, and at an affordable price.
To clarify, if we check the websites of the oil companies mentioned above that are manufacturing the cheaper Group, "III", what I call the pretend-it's-a-synthetic oil, (which are merely refined from petroleum crude oil and not manufactured using the superior performing synthetic oils using Group IV PAO or Group V ester base stocks), we find the recommended drain interval is no longer than the even cheaper Group II petroleum oils. For any oil to be safely capable of the rigors of extended drain intervals, the oils additive package has to be specifically formulated for this. Matters not what the base stock of the oil is. The additive package and a high TBN, (total base number), are what is necessary for safe extended drain intervals.
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Ford will tell you Motorcraft, but in reality, you only need to meet or exceed the Ford specification WSS-M2C945-A. For warranty purposes especially, you want to make sure of this - there would be few things worse than getting a warranty claim on an engine denied because a non-approved oil was used.

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For an engine warranty to be denied because of a non-approved oil being used, it has to be proven that whatever damage occurred was due specifically to the oil. If the oil didn't cause the problem, the warranty claim can't be denied. This is federal law. Google --> Magnuson Moss Warranty Act.
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