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Old 07-20-2012, 09:53 AM   #61
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I believe the dry clutch is rated at 175 ft lbs. From what I have read on here previously, which is probably going to be hit without turbo. Though I think focusboy has the highest DCT so far and was in the 150s still on torque, and 170 HP. So it could probably handle a small turbo, but it would reach the torque limits quickly.
http://www.getrag.de/en/231

240 - 280 Nm

177-206 ft lbs
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http://www.getrag.de/en/231

240 - 280 Nm

177-206 ft lbs
thanks, i stand corrected, then yeah I guess I will have to try and turbo when tuning becomes available.
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And that's before someone like Lentech takes it apart and replaces Ford's factory parts. From what I've gathered it's like every other AT Ford has ever designed: the design is groundbreaking, bulletproof, but the bean counters put the cheapest internal parts possible because, in theory, a great design with cheap parts should last long enough to get you out of warranty. Replace the bearings with higher quality, clutches, gears, etc- whammo, the sky is the limit.

We won't know that for a few years though.
Their manuals are full of cheap parts too.
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Why do people mod mustang GTs when they should have gotten a cobra? I like the lower payment associated with lower trims and the lower interest rates also.
If you plan on doing some serious mods to your Focus, you will find yourself paying the same amount, and more, eventually. What's the cost to upgrade the transmission and engine to match the 252 horses the ST puts out? And we're talking about producing that amount of power with the reliability and longevity the ST comes with. Those upgrades will surely void your warranty as well. OK, now you'll need some improved rubber to put to the pavement, then you'll probably need improved suspension, and eventually some brakes. If you plan on tracking your Focus, you'll need to swap the driver seat.

If you love the process of building and watching the car morph into exactly what you want, it's worth it. Otherwise, I still think you might as well cough up a few extra bucks. =/
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If you love the process of building and watching the car morph into exactly what you want, it's worth it.
Bingo. This is why I'm asking. I'm a tinkerer, I like building things and working with my hands. Eventually, say 5 years down the road when I have a new car, I'd like to turn this Focus into a project car.

I may yet get an ST. We'll see...but right now it's not looking likely.
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Does anyone know any new word on this topic?
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Does anyone know any new word on this topic?
Still no tune available, so kind of at a stand still right now.
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Topic cleaned to remove extraneous references to the dead pedal.

Discussion moved to: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310570.

We can't have a turbo without tuning or swapping in the ST engine and gearboxes.

Well the MTX-75 might hold the power, but the ST exceeds the Torque limits that getrag has set forth for the DCT, for which no one so far has been able to surpass just by intake/ exhaust alone.
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We can't have a turbo without tuning or swapping in the ST engine and gearboxes.

Well the MTX-75 might hold the power, but the ST exceeds the Torque limits that getrag has set forth for the DCT, for which no one so far has been able to surpass just by intake/ exhaust alone.


I have the 5 speed. Whats the torque limits on it?
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The MTX-75 has been rated anywhere from the low to the mid 200's depending on exact flavor, I believe that is what is in the mk3 with a manual. That being said word on the street is that it can handle 300fp reliably, but one mans reliably and another is just the length of time between tows. It can be beefed up and limed slip put in and handle anything you can get out the motor, the DCT cannot in its current form. The 6DCT451 could handle it (according to specs) but I don't know if it can be mated and fitted.

You could turbo the focus without a tune, it would just require some trial and error and low boost levels, but even 5 lbs of boost can add 30 or more rwhp. Coupled with opening up the airflow you could get into the low 200 hp range.

With the lightweight cast pistons it could be expensive trial and error of course. With the high compression and weak internals, I doubt even a tune is going to reliably add more than 10 lbs of boost to a stock motor, but someone could surprise me.

The questions are why would you when the ST is available? It has the internals, stronger tranny and the tune already.

The starting point would be looking at how to upgrade the fuel delivery system and retard the timing, I think the ST used ford explorer fuel injectors?
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