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Old 01-24-2013, 07:52 PM   #221
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I found this list of Oil Myths interesting, especially #7 as it quotes an expert at Blackstone saying he doesn't think synthetic adds MPG and another expert questions whether synthetic is worth the extra cost.
It's common to see a true synthetic lubricant add mpg in some engines. The problem is, not all lubricants with "synthetic" on the outside of the bottle are true synthetics.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:13 AM   #222
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Quick question guys, is the oil filter for Titanium model the same as for the ST?

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Old 01-25-2013, 02:14 AM   #223
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Quick question guys, is the oil filter for Titanium model the same as for the ST?

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Old 01-25-2013, 02:17 AM   #224
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Thanks for answering. I totalled my 2012 Titanium, but I have like 24 Purolator filters that I will use when I buy ST :)

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i used k&n for a while, but as i get older, 10 bux for an oil filter isnt for me anymore. ill take the 2 dollar stp.

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Old 02-04-2013, 01:59 AM   #226
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Was the point of your post to be pedantic? The molecular change that the basestock undergoes in the GTL process to make Group III constitutes a synthetic end product in the eyes of most people. It is a completely man made process not found in nature with a end product that cannot be duplicated by natural means. More importantly, a Grp III performs as well as Grp IV or Grp V based oils in every meaningful way.
From reading on synthetic oils it is my understanding that true synthetic oils in the Group IV and Group V category have a turbulent flow pattern, (which aids in the transfer of heat, resulting in lower engine operating temperatures), whereas the cheaper Group III, "synthetic oils", refined from petroleum crude oil have a laminar flow pattern, which is comparatively inferior to a turbulent flow pattern in heat transfer characteristics. I've also read that real Group IV and Group V synthetic oils have vastly greater film strength than the cheaper Group III, "synthetic oils", refined from petroleum crude oil. I've also read that in Europe, by law, these Group III, "synthetic oils", can't be legally referred to as synthetic oils.

Group II oils also can't be duplicated in nature, but that doesn't mean they are a synthetic oil either.

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As far as I know Ford doesn't use any "break in" additives so you should be fine.

I found this list of Oil Myths interesting, especially #7 as it quotes an expert at Blackstone saying he doesn't think synthetic adds MPG and another expert questions whether synthetic is worth the extra cost. I think if you've got the extra $20 each oil change and it makes you feel better it's worth it. Urban Legend #5 does sort of support changing the oil earlier than normal.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/top-...motor-oil.html
What would an oil analysis employee know about top performing synthetic oils improving fuel economy or not?

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Many understandably confuse price with cost. They aren't the same thing. In many cases, higher priced products, (including top shelf synthetic oils vs petroleum oils), are less costly to use than lower priced products -

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Everything BlueFocusSE5 says is true, however.....there are millions of people in this world who have been brainwashed by big oil. The propaganda submitted by Big Oil claiming that hydrocracked petroleum is everything PAO and Ester are, at a lower cost, is the real myth.

It isn't even close. UOAs have been proving this for years, but people ignore the numbers. Even more benefits that a UOA will not show you are gained from the use of true synthetics. Lower friction, lower heat, lower NOACK, etc.
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Just did my first oil change at 3000km (1800 miles)
I switched to mobil1 synthetic 5w20
The oil was fairly dirty for the mileage that was put on it but I didn't see any metal shavings. It did however smell a fair bit more than usual used oil does IMO

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Just did my first oil change at 3000km (1800 miles)
I switched to mobil1 synthetic 5w20
The oil was fairly dirty for the mileage that was put on it but I didn't see any metal shavings. It did however smell a fair bit more than usual used oil does IMO

and now...a car wash.
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