TSB 12-11-01 Posted Today - MFT v3.5.1

[Now534]

Originally Posted by Machinist

I just purchased a 2013 SE sport with MFT and navigation last week.

The car had a A3 level card in it, so I took it to the local dealer today to have it upgraded.

Here is what the invoice states (their spelling):

"Check on the navigation - it was not update - it have a3 in the system - did a sync update master reset and reflash the sync - then insall the a4 new navigation map sd card."

I'm not sure that I have the very latest upgrade for my nav because 3.5.1 isn't listed anywhere on the invoice - just the A4 card.

Questions:
1. With the A4 card in the car - does this mean that I have v3.5.1???
2. v3.5.1 and the A4 card is the very latest upgrade for my car w/nav...correct???
3. Will the A4 card work with the "older" upgrades???
I just want to be sure that my nav is fully up to date (no techie here).

Thanks in advance.

Quick way of telling can you see the outside temperature next to the clock on your screen? If so yes you have 3.5.1 if not you have 3.2

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[lewisra]

Originally Posted by Machinist

I just purchased a 2013 SE sport with MFT and navigation last week.

The car had a A3 level card in it, so I took it to the local dealer today to have it upgraded.

Here is what the invoice states (their spelling):

"Check on the navigation - it was not update - it have a3 in the system - did a sync update master reset and reflash the sync - then insall the a4 new navigation map sd card."

I'm not sure that I have the very latest upgrade for my nav because 3.5.1 isn't listed anywhere on the invoice - just the A4 card.

Questions:
1. With the A4 card in the car - does this mean that I have v3.5.1???
2. v3.5.1 and the A4 card is the very latest upgrade for my car w/nav...correct???
3. Will the A4 card work with the "older" upgrades???
I just want to be sure that my nav is fully up to date (no techie here).

Thanks in advance.

You have 3.5.1

[TehMark]

Well I still have huge issues with spotify and myford touch over bluetooth. MFT sends a skip track command to the phone pretty much constantly. I get to listen to about 15-20 seconds of a song and then it skips to the next. My only workaround has been to use the USB connection for my iphone. When I do that it doesn't skip. Never had the problem until MFT 3.5.

[dragonpalm]

Originally Posted by TehMark

Well I still have huge issues with spotify and myford touch over bluetooth. MFT sends a skip track command to the phone pretty much constantly. I get to listen to about 15-20 seconds of a song and then it skips to the next. My only workaround has been to use the USB connection for my iphone. When I do that it doesn't skip. Never had the problem until MFT 3.5.

TehMark, this is exactly what I've experienced since I updated to 3.5.1. I'm kinda glad someone else has this problem too. I think it has something to do with the songs not starting at :00 like they should. Mine always start at 1:33 and so it changes tracks automatically before the song ends. I also use the usb workaround but I hope they fix this issue by the next version . By the way, it's not only Spotify because Rdio does the same thing.

[fixxer]

My main problem with 3.5.1 is that the "Play song" command stopped working for me. That's the voice command I was using the most on earlier versions.
The system acknowledges the song I'm trying to play but it ends up playing a random song instead.

[TehMark]

Originally Posted by dragonpalm

TehMark, this is exactly what I've experienced since I updated to 3.5.1. I'm kinda glad someone else has this problem too. I think it has something to do with the songs not starting at :00 like they should. Mine always start at 1:33 and so it changes tracks automatically before the song ends. I also use the usb workaround but I hope they fix this issue by the next version . By the way, it's not only Spotify because Rdio does the same thing.

Good to know. I was thinking of trying Rdio.

[copernicium112]

Originally Posted by TehMark

Well I still have huge issues with spotify and myford touch over bluetooth. MFT sends a skip track command to the phone pretty much constantly. I get to listen to about 15-20 seconds of a song and then it skips to the next. My only workaround has been to use the USB connection for my iphone. When I do that it doesn't skip. Never had the problem until MFT 3.5.

So you've still got that one? I'll have to run Spotify more in my car in the near future to see. I rarely use Spotify. I do run Slacker constantly though and do not have a track-skip problem with it.

[TehMark]

I ordered some cheap knockoff iphone cables from china so it'll be less of a pain in the butt once I have more than a single charge cable for my iphone. (Stupid lightning plug) Yeah though, the track skipping is pretty out of control. I just wanted to listen to a new album that had come out which is usually a super happy time. Because of the constant skipping I was just pissed off for the entire drive home. Posted my problem on the ford owner board and I'm thinking of tweeting/emailing/calling just so ford has some kind of record of this issue.

[copernicium112]

Now I see what you are saying TehMark. When you first posted I was new to Spotify, I had only downloaded about a week prior to your post and hadn't had the chance to have even used it in my car at that point. I tried it based on your post just to see. I had no skipping issues. Hadn't really used it since then (I primarily use Slacker). Went back to it over the past few days after you posted again and did get the skipping issue. I have the freebie but after I first downloaded I was on a 30-day trial of premium. Again, no skipping issues then. Last Friday when I fired it up it informed me that my free trial was over. No biggie. Driving around though and yeah, I got the first random skip and the behavior continued through the weekend. Strange, none of the other streaming apps I use do that. I have experienced very rare skipping issues in other apps but it seems to me it is related to situations when I am leaving somewhere and my phone is still pulling a wifi signal and once I get down the street and out of range the phone switches to a cell signal and sometime it briefly loses connection, reconnects, and jumps a track. Sometimes if I am in areas of a really, really compromised cell connection it seems to do the same (I use freebies for all of these so having nothing significant in the way of caching for any of them).

I notice with Spotify that whenever I manually skipped a song, the very next track would start playing and eventually skip. I also notice that if I left the app open so MFT would just auto-connect and start playing on a subsequent startup, whatever track it picked back up on would skip shortly thereafter as well. Both of these happened 100% of the time for me. The other skips just seemed to occur at random times.

Tough to figure out because there there are a couple of variables, the app and MFT version. You said it didn't do this pre-3.5.1 right? What I do know is that Slacker (I use constantly), Pandora (I use occassionally), and LastFM (I use very rarely) have not had this issue w/3.5.1 or pre-3.5.1. I never used Spotify pre-3.5.1 so I have no idea but with 3.5.1 I now definitely see the behavior you and dragonpalm are seeing.

[dragonpalm]

Originally Posted by copernicium112

Tough to figure out because there there are a couple of variables, the app and MFT version. You said it didn't do this pre-3.5.1 right? What I do know is that Slacker (I use constantly), Pandora (I use occassionally), and LastFM (I use very rarely) have not had this issue w/3.5.1 or pre-3.5.1. I never used Spotify pre-3.5.1 so I have no idea but with 3.5.1 I now definitely see the behavior you and dragonpalm are seeing.

I used Spotify premium on 3.0.2 and it never skipped a song. The skip problem only started after I upgraded to 3.5.1. This leads me to believe the problem lies with MFT, but of course I'm not sure. On my car, a song will skip only when it doesn't start at the correct time and usually after I've listened to over half the song (it usually doesn't skip as early as you guys report). Very rarely, a song will start correctly at :00 and the song will play all the way through without skipping.

This weekend, while I was getting my oil changed, I sat in a new Fusion with 3.5.1 and tested out its system using Spotify and the same thing occurred. A song would skip after a few minutes into it. The salesman was quite perplexed but blamed Spotify.