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Old 12-21-2012, 08:38 AM   #11
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I wish you could default the traction control off. The DCT drives so much smoother without it.
If your dct is driving "smoother" with the TCS off under normal driving conditions than there is a fair chance that you either have oil contaminated clutches or glazed clutches and this slip between input and output speeds is causing the TCS to clamp down on the power and or the brakes.

There should be almost no discernable difference with the TCS on or off except under hard acceleration from a dead stop, or going around corners too aggressively that you'd provoke wheel spin with it off.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:41 AM   #12
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the dct is fine. I just notice as you mentioned hard acceleration from a stop and accelerating during spirited driving around corvers.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:48 PM   #13
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There is a 5A fuse in the engine bay fuse panel under a white secondary cover. Pull that and it disables TCS/ESC/ABS. I've pulled it 2-3 times screwing around, most recently in the snow to have some hoonigan fun. You get a few idiot lights (Trac, brake and ABS) but once you pop it back in everything is normal.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:26 AM   #14
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There is a 5A fuse in the engine bay fuse panel under a white secondary cover. Pull that and it disables TCS/ESC/ABS. I've pulled it 2-3 times screwing around, most recently in the snow to have some hoonigan fun. You get a few idiot lights (Trac, brake and ABS) but once you pop it back in everything is normal.
Which numbered one would that be.
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Luggage compartment fuse F19 in my manual says it's not used. Engine compartment says it's ABS/ESP. I know these electronic nannys do wonders for keeping people out of trouble, but us older people didn't have this stuff and had to learn how to drive without them good or bad. Now I personally would like to be able to shut off the controls because if I decide to autocross, not in parking lot on a real race track it could cause problems with the brakes getting to hot from the ESP trying to control the car. Also on the street in certain conditions I have felt coming out of corners hard, power being noticable down like the brake was being applied on inside corner, it's kind of a killjoy if ya know what I mean. ABS is ok but still not optimal because when I used to race we were taught threshold braking and if done right you will be able to do better than 99% of ABS sysems out there. Just my 2cents.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:12 AM   #16
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I was looking at another thread on this same issue. http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...=275688&page=6

Someone on there had a great idea of wiring a switch with an inline 5A fuse into the F19 under the hood. I was in the garage late last night looking at this, and it seems fairly easy to do. All you would need is a single pair of wires running into the cabin with an inline fuse holder and a simple on / off switch.

This way, you could easily disconnect the circuit while in the car, and turn it back on again without issue. And because you are not splicing into the system, only plugging an extension into the fuse box, it would be easy to remove and revert to stock with no one the wiser.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:29 PM   #17
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I was looking at another thread on this same issue. http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...=275688&page=6

Someone on there had a great idea of wiring a switch with an inline 5A fuse into the F19 under the hood. I was in the garage late last night looking at this, and it seems fairly easy to do. All you would need is a single pair of wires running into the cabin with an inline fuse holder and a simple on / off switch.

This way, you could easily disconnect the circuit while in the car, and turn it back on again without issue. And because you are not splicing into the system, only plugging an extension into the fuse box, it would be easy to remove and revert to stock with no one the wiser.
So just to give you guys an update, I just went for a drive and went to a snow dusted abandoned parking lot to test this.j
After pulling the fuse, I got 3 warning lights, which I expected. (tcs, abs, and brake warning lights). I was supprised however, that nothing came up on the dash display saying anything was amiss. I even ran the system check, and it reported all systems normal.

Once I started driving, It was easy to tell what was disabled. The TCS, ABS, ESC, as well as the touque vectoring and brake bias control. All of this was expected, and it drove well aside from the brake bias on hard braking.
This is my only caution as the rear will lock up first, I assume due to the wight ballence of the car.
For this reason, I would reccomend not leaving this off for most driving, as the system does a great job when you are not trying to push the car to it's limits.
I do however, still want to wire in an override for the system, so this can be disabled easily if need be.
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I have installed an over-rede switch in my car for the F19 fuse. I wrote up a how to in the following thread: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...=275688&page=7

It seems to be working well.
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Hahaha pulled this fuse today to have some fun. Put her in a snow bank.......good times lol. Thankfully it was big enough and soft enough I spun off it. No big damage just some trim to pop back on haha
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So just to give you guys an update, I just went for a drive and went to a snow dusted abandoned parking lot to test this.j
After pulling the fuse, I got 3 warning lights, which I expected. (tcs, abs, and brake warning lights). I was supprised however, that nothing came up on the dash display saying anything was amiss. I even ran the system check, and it reported all systems normal.

Once I started driving, It was easy to tell what was disabled. The TCS, ABS, ESC, as well as the touque vectoring and brake bias control. All of this was expected, and it drove well aside from the brake bias on hard braking.
This is my only caution as the rear will lock up first, I assume due to the wight ballence of the car.
For this reason, I would reccomend not leaving this off for most driving, as the system does a great job when you are not trying to push the car to it's limits.
I do however, still want to wire in an override for the system, so this can be disabled easily if need be.
I have a possible fix for the rear brakes locking up. I'm going to put some Hawk HP Plus pads on the front this spring when I get my car out of winter storage. The fronts could possibly be aggressive enough to over ride the rears locking up first. If not I'll look into putting a manual brake bias control in like I have on the RaceStang.
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