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Old 12-04-2012, 10:07 AM   #41
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Maybe, with a lot of hard launches, but for anything other than drag racing, I believe the clutches will go way sooner than the mechanicals.
We need stronger clutches.
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We need stronger clutches.
With the DCT a "shiftkit" is likely going to be a bit of tuning rather than a valve body upgrade like in a traditional automatic.

Effectively a DCT shiftkit will be much quicker and cheaper to install.
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With the DCT a "shiftkit" is likely going to be a bit of tuning rather than a valve body upgrade like in a traditional automatic.

Effectively a DCT shiftkit will be much quicker and cheaper to install.
That's been the case for a lot of autos in the past 20 years. You can always remap shift points and pressure, the dct is a completely different design though.
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That's been the case for a lot of autos in the past 20 years. You can always remap shift points and pressure, the dct is a completely different design though.
Yes the shift points and pressure thresholds in an basic ATX tranny are adjustable via TCU programming but the actual engagement has always been limited by spring pressures, valvebody layout, and the torque converter.

Looking at the DCT pictures I'd say its ALL clutch material and programming unless perhaps there is eventually solenoid and servo upgrades which I highly doubt.
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With the DCT a "shiftkit" is likely going to be a bit of tuning rather than a valve body upgrade like in a traditional automatic.

Effectively a DCT shiftkit will be much quicker and cheaper to install.
Yes, there is no "valve body" per se to the DCT, just electronic solenoid actuators. Thus the need for a tuner to make any significant changes.
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Yes, there is no "valve body" per se to the DCT, just electronic solenoid actuators. Thus the need for a tuner to make any significant changes.
Well yes, Its a dry doubleclutch system. Basically fluidless. Valve bodies require hydraulic fluids.
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I would be totally okay if they released tuning for manuals before tuning for the DCT.
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I would be totally okay if they released tuning for manuals before tuning for the DCT.
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I would be totally okay if they released tuning for manuals before tuning for the DCT.
It would be easier for them, but I need tuning for my dct. I wish I'd gotten a manual like I wanted but nothing was available and I needed a car.
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