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Old 11-30-2012, 01:06 PM   #11
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Totally different situation. This is not adopting a new technology.

They are now using their power to pervert an open standard, one that was designed to be open and free to further innovation and competition, to force developers and manufacturers to pay to use that open standard on products that Apple develops.

That is fine in and of itself. But they should not be allowed to use the Bluetooth logo and they should not be able to call themselves or their products compliant to the standard.
I see your points. I was railing against the binary wars mentality (Apple vs PC, Democrats vs Republicans) that people (society, nobody here in particular) are playing into and dumbing down our society. Each side of a coin has something to offer... moreover, there aren't only two sides to a coin, but I guess thinking that there are makes it easier for consumption and discussion.

I looked up the MAP specification and found it interesting that Apple was not a contributor but other phone manufacturers were. Not that it makes it okay to deviate and use the name, but it is interesting nonetheless.

More interesting would be to know how it is "non-standard"... did they use a different set of XML tags in the bmessage or what? With MFT 3.51 we can now get text notifications, but can't send, so sounds close....
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:43 PM   #12
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But they should not be allowed to use the Bluetooth logo and they should not be able to call themselves or their products compliant to the standard.
They are fully compliant with the Appletooth standard.
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:46 PM   #13
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You mean like in 1998 when they introduced the iMac and it had USB ports only instead of DB9 or DB25 or other serial ports? And everyone screamed bloody murder because nobody was using USB ports and no peripherals supported them. And now...
Was Apple the first to implement USB?

According to Wikipedia:

"A group of seven companies began the development of USB in 1994: Compaq, DEC, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, NEC and Nortel."
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:01 PM   #14
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Was Apple the first to implement USB?

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"A group of seven companies began the development of USB in 1994: Compaq, DEC, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, NEC and Nortel."
And?

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Old 11-30-2012, 08:10 PM   #15
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Yes let's devolve further into the PC vs Apple wars I was pointing out. First you can tell us which IBM computer replaced previous serial ports with USB and when.
There is no need to have a war.

After the introduction of USB, serial and parallel ports were included on many PC's for compatibility with legacy devices.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:40 PM   #16
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You're not really surprised are you? Everything Apple does is non standard. Look at their cables. I'm surprised they don't have their own special usb ports.
No, I'm not really surprised at all, but it's still disappointing to wait so long for Apple to offer MAP only to find out they diverged from the standard.
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More interesting would be to know how it is "non-standard"... did they use a different set of XML tags in the bmessage or what? With MFT 3.51 we can now get text notifications, but can't send, so sounds close....
I have never been able to get text notifications using an Apple product on MFT. I have an iPhone 4S 6.0.1 and I've had MFT 3.0.2 and now 3.5.1. I wonder why some people report having any sort of text notifications because I just get the screen that says your phone is not compatible.
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I have never been able to get text notifications using an Apple product on MFT. I have an iPhone 4S 6.0.1 and I've had MFT 3.0.2 and now 3.5.1. I wonder why some people report having any sort of text notifications because I just get the screen that says your phone is not compatible.
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I tired that multiple times but I can't find the setting for the last step so it still doesntt work on mine. Could it have gone away in 6.0.1?
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I tired that multiple times but I can't find the setting for the last step so it still doesntt work on mine. Could it have gone away in 6.0.1?
No, I'm using 6.0.1. You still have MFT 3.0.2 (or 3.2.2) though, right?
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