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Old 11-26-2012, 12:22 PM   #11
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Yea tuning is holding us back and it sucks. I've had a tuner for my mustangs since 2004 when I started driving.
Most tuning advancements are motorsports related. Hopefully with more Focus ST seen in the wild it will be attractive enough to spawn some product development that will trickle down to the naturally aspirated Foci.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:50 PM   #12
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I'm not sure the logic in the ECU's are all that similar. The N/A focus uses a MAF sensor while the ST uses 3 MAP sensors. (speed density).

Completely different logic.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:38 PM   #13
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I'm not sure the logic in the ECU's are all that similar. The N/A focus uses a MAF sensor while the ST uses 3 MAP sensors. (speed density).

Completely different logic.
Different sensor.
Different Fuel tables because NA vs Turbo means different compression
Also additional tables for factory boost control map

Doesnt matter.
Its not an actual issue unless you want some sort of mailorder chip like from the 1990's. I assure you that you dont want that.

Once there is any actual tuning option for the Ti-VCT ecu's there will be options to load different fuel and ignition tables regardless of sensors.

Once there's tuning for the Ti-VCT pretty much sky's the limit for optimized bolt on tuning and packages for bolton forced induction kits.

Its a pretty safe bet that some suit at Ford asked Cobb and SCT and Roush and whom ever else not to release any aftermarket tuning until the Focus ST is firmly marketed in north america.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:04 PM   #14
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I love the ROUSH turbo on my car!
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:42 AM   #17
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Different sensor.
Different Fuel tables because NA vs Turbo means different compression
Also additional tables for factory boost control map

Doesnt matter.
Its not an actual issue unless you want some sort of mailorder chip like from the 1990's. I assure you that you dont want that.

Once there is any actual tuning option for the Ti-VCT ecu's there will be options to load different fuel and ignition tables regardless of sensors.

Once there's tuning for the Ti-VCT pretty much sky's the limit for optimized bolt on tuning and packages for bolton forced induction kits.

Its a pretty safe bet that some suit at Ford asked Cobb and SCT and Roush and whom ever else not to release any aftermarket tuning until the Focus ST is firmly marketed in north america.
hmmm I think you've misunderstood me. I'm well aware of the tuning process. I self tuned my MS6 using Cobb's AP and software.

My point being a lot of people are basing their hope for support of the NA focus on the fact that companies are releasing tuning solutions for the ST. I feel this is false hope and that information used to tune the ST will not be relevant to the NA model.

If anything, we the ST out, we're less likely to receive support than the other way around.

Cobb has already released a statement a few years ago saying they would only be working with factory turbo charged vehicles; so don't expect to see an AP for the NA focus.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:54 PM   #18
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All I'm saying is that SCT, Cobb and other tuning companies are going to release packages for the ST. Only after that are we going to see any tuning software/interface for the NA Ti-VCT.
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Hope everyone realized that once the tune is on the car out goes the warranty if there is an engine/tranny issue!
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Hope everyone realized that once the tune is on the car out goes the warranty if there is an engine/tranny issue!
What's with the sudden uproar on this site about warranties? Ford always finds a way to get out of doing warranty work anyway.
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