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Old 11-22-2012, 08:07 PM   #61
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I notice you avoided the question.

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Old 11-22-2012, 08:15 PM   #62
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Explain to me how it would NOT cause wearing of parts if it happens for (at least) 3 minutes EVERY TIME THE CAR IS UNLOCKED. Ford claims it is "the shift motors waking up" what exactly does that mean? Is it mechanical parts moving or some type of relay? Either way something is moving and movement creates wear. I work in the electrical industry and have seen relays burn out pretty quickly from numerous quick operations over an extended period of time, so hopefully it isn't something like this.

Not to mention why is it only SOME vehicles may experience this? If it is a design feature, shouldn't they ALL do it? If some don't make the noise (such as mine) why can't they ALL not make it?

riddle me that.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:20 PM   #63
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Everything on the car experiences some degrer of wear everytime you use it. Is this piece operating within the specs for which it was designed and built? You are assuming that it isnt. Since you have no idea at all what it is or what it is doing and have no idea what duty and life cycle it was built for . . .

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Old 11-22-2012, 08:23 PM   #64
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Like I said, why do some do it and some don't?

If it is making this sound and is "in spec" just the same as a focus which does not make the sound is in spec, well that is piss poor engineering/quality control.

People don't want to hear unusual sounds with a brand new car even if it is "in spec" especially, like I said, not all of our cars do this. Simple as that.
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Again, you are going off on incomplete and anecdotal evidence. What cars dont do it? Is anything about those cars different, etc. The fact that people dont want their new car to make a noise they dont understand is kinda meaningless. Assemble some meaninful data points before declaring a design problem and cover-up.

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and to the same train of thought, don't always believe what they tell you is true. Example:

Ford:"dct shuttering is normal operation!"

...then they release a TSB to replace the seals and clutches due to oil contaminating the clutches which caused them to slip/SHUTTER.

This generation focus has a LOT of problems. For you to say "The fact that people dont want their new car to make a noise they dont understand is kinda meaningless." is completely foolish. This is why Ford's quality has fallen tremendously in comparisons. Tell the dozens and dozens of people here who have clunking sounds on their brand new car that it sucks to be them since noise is meaningless (so far any way) just like this clicking sound.
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So, to summarize, you have a problem with your transmission, therefor a noise you cant identify or explain must be harming your car. OK - I give.

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cool, ignore how I gave actual examples where ford has said one thing but then backtracked on it. This CAN BE the case with this also. with that, I am done too.
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Nobody said it might not be the case, the point is that you have not given a single fact to support why that is the case. Your entire point is that the noise is weird and the focus has other problems. 2+2 = 5.

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I'd still like to see the link from Ford where they say this is normal.
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