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Old 11-15-2012, 01:53 PM   #101
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Mmm nope.


Source: Road & Track's 2013 Ford Fusion Review

Can't say if that's the lowest production CoD out there, I'm sure there are some that are lower. In any case, anything below 0.30 is pretty damn slippery.

Edit: Let me correct myself. 2010+ Prius CoD is 0.25, only beaten by the Tesla Model S at 0.24 (for current production cars)
Source: Automobile Drag Coefficient - Wikipedia

Oops ! Got my number wrong for the Prius ... thanks ! Good info ! At the time I looked it up a few years ago (pre-Tesla) the Prius was the slipperiest !

WOW ! That list has changed considerably since I last looked at it a few years ago. Several cars at .25 now.

Good job aero guys !


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Old 11-15-2012, 06:26 PM   #102
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LOL .... this is gonna be REALLY easy....

First ... you said .... back in 07 it was true just for the fact of the few numbers of prius produced which made their cost high.

Response 1 ... Really ??? So few produced ???? In 2007 187,000 Prius were SOLD in the FIRST HALF of the year .... with projections of 345,000 for the entire year. Just a couple more than your 'few' .... The Gen 1 Prius was sold in the US in the year 2000 ... hardly a low-volume newcomer by 2007. By 2008 Prius had sold 1,000,000 cars worldwide, and 1,000,000 cars in the US by April 2011. To date ... almost 3,000,000 have been sold worldwide.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/02/autos/hybrid_record_sales/index.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius


Second ... you said .... And sadly, the 2010 focus beat out the 10 prius by a long shot cradle to grave again in the study. focus 55 cents a mile compared to the prius $1.89 a mile cradle to grave.

Source please ? Method of calculation please ? Equivalent model comparison ?? Doubtful. Numbers can be made to say ANYTHING depending on how you want the results to come out ... as we'll see in your arguments below, which are easily disproved.


Third .... you said .... It's actually funny how owners push their mpg (47 to 50 depending on prius model) yet fail to mention tdi vw's get far higher mileage.

Again ... source please for same year cars. As far as I know ... no US VW TDI has ever been rated higher than the Prius. According to www.fueleconomy.gov the 2010 Prius is rated 51 City, 48 Highway, 50 combined. The 2010 Jetta TDI is rated 30 City, 41 Highway, 34 Combined. Now factor in approximately 10% extra for Diesel fuel higher cost, and we're at 27 City, 36 Highway, 30 Combined. Hmmm .... doesn't seem like your 'facts' are holding up too well so far ....

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/26425.shtml
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/29408.shtml

Fourth ... you said ... then theres the fiesta and focus which get 40mpg (some reported mpg higher), which costs less than the prius.

First .... the number you quote is a HIGHWAY ONLY number. Let's see what the REAL number is ..... again from www.fueleconomy.gov ....

Hmmmm .... 33 for the Fiesta combined .... 31 for the Focus combined. Both a far cry from your quoted 40. An equivalent Focus to the $24K Prius II would probably be a loaded SEL (Auto Climate control, one-touch auto up/down windows, keyless entry, pushbutton start, mag wheels, digital trip computer), etc, etc. Probably about the same price. So how exactly is the EQUIVALENTLY EQUIPPED FOCUS appreciably less than the Base Prius II, which has all the above features and more ?


Lastly ... you said .... And don't forget to mention the tax credit the prius gets, 7500 i believe?.

Well ... to put it quite bluntly .... you once again BELIEVE WRONG. The LAST year that the Prius got ANY tax credit was 2007, and then it was less than $1000. Again .... easily verifiable in one of the links listed above.


Any other misinformation or distorted 'facts' you'd like to attempt ??


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First off, I wasn't talking to your happy butt...

But LOOK at the 2013 focus and fiesta. 40MPG! when the hell is the last time you actually looked up any new info on any other cars? a few years ago... sheesh!
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:55 PM   #103
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First off, I wasn't talking to your happy butt...

But LOOK at the 2013 focus and fiesta. 40MPG! when the hell is the last time you actually looked up any new info on any other cars? a few years ago... sheesh!
Oh please .... that's highway. Get real .... the number is 31.

The Prius gets better than 1.5X that amount combined.

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Old 11-15-2012, 10:07 PM   #104
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Talking about toyota...is it bad i wore my toyota uniform when i bought my focus?
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I can't see the video but I'm pretty sure it's one Prius owner acting weird and you're implying ALL Prius owners must somehow be that way just like the broken Prius your wife drove makes them all broken somehow.
Nope. He's not. He's just saying what pieces of junk all Prius' are. And most owners are straight up penis. Nuff said
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Nope. He's not. He's just saying what pieces of junk all Prius' are. And most owners are straight up penis. Nuff said
I have been saying the Prius' are crap since they rolled off the line. The recent recalls (again) confirm that. This time its for the Steering Shaft and the Water Pump. Eventually the whole car will be recalled.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/cars/t...3ac_story.html
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Nope. He's not. He's just saying what pieces of junk all Prius' are. And most owners are straight up penis. Nuff said
They let you use the computer during the day in grade school?

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How about we keep the IQ level up in this thread instead of dumbing it down and insulting Prius owners which I 4wheel with a few and none are the type of people your are presuming. Let's stick to facts.
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When you can't argue the message with facts ... attack the messenger !!!


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