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Old 11-15-2012, 09:28 AM   #71
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Steve from Tousley just sent me an e-mail, he has confirmed that the brace does come with the reinforcement plates attached.

So, just placed my official order. Everything is shipping out this morning.
(2) AD-1094 strut bearings @8.56ea
(2) AD-1098 strut mounts @10.80ea
(2) HN1 center strut nuts @7.08ea
(1) DV6Z-16A200-A strut tower brace @77.31

Parts total comes to $130.19. Hopefully this does it, comrades.
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Steve from Tousley just sent me an e-mail, he has confirmed that the brace does come with the reinforcement plates attached.

So, just placed my official order. Everything is shipping out this morning.
(2) AD-1094 strut bearings @8.56ea
(2) AD-1098 strut mounts @10.80ea
(2) HN1 center strut nuts @7.08ea
(1) DV6Z-16A200-A strut tower brace @77.31

Parts total comes to $130.19. Hopefully this does it, comrades.
So if they come WITH the brace ... is there any real speculation as to why there was the gap in production where plates were not used? I know that problem isn't solved, but regardless, that seems to be a head scratcher.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:05 AM   #73
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So if they come WITH the brace ... is there any real speculation as to why there was the gap in production where plates were not used? I know that problem isn't solved, but regardless, that seems to be a head scratcher.
I haven't been able to reach someone who can give me a straight answer on that. Everyone I've talked to so far has seemed genuinely surprised to hear that Ford did such a thing.

Certainly would be nice if I could simply dial up Ford and have them patch me through to someone in the body engineering department.
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I haven't been able to reach someone who can give me a straight answer on that. Everyone I've talked to so far has seemed genuinely surprised to hear that Ford did such a thing.

Certainly would be nice if I could simply dial up Ford and have them patch me through to someone in the body engineering department.
What about the stock bolts needed for the reinforced bar?
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What about the stock bolts needed for the reinforced bar?
That's the one thing I won't be installing, since they're prohibitively expensive at ~$13 per bolt. The Ford bolts are specialized, due to the unthreaded shank on the bolt and the hardened steel spacer, but they're only grade 10.9 fasteners.

I have sourced similar grade 10.9 M8 x 1.25 x 30mm flange bolts that I will be using instead, and I will also be torquing them to factory specs.

I will also be re-using the hardened factory bolt spacers, since I cut them off of the factory bolts and drilled them out to fit over the threads of these bolts.
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That's the one thing I won't be installing, since they're prohibitively expensive at ~$13 per bolt. The Ford bolts are specialized, due to the unthreaded shank on the bolt and the hardened steel spacer, but they're only grade 10.9 fasteners.

I have sourced similar grade 10.9 M8 x 1.25 x 30mm flange bolts that I will be using instead, and I will also be torquing them to factory specs.

I will also be re-using the hardened factory bolt spacers, since I cut them off of the factory bolts and drilled them out to fit over the threads of these bolts.
But with the reinforced bar the spacers (washers) are thinner then the ones without
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So if they come WITH the brace ... is there any real speculation as to why there was the gap in production where plates were not used? I know that problem isn't solved, but regardless, that seems to be a head scratcher.
Frankly, if the car was supposed to come from the factory w/ the brace and did not, then Ford should cough up the dough to reimburse owners who decide to purchase the brace.
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But with the reinforced bar the spacers (washers) are thinner then the ones without
Very true, however, the bolts I've chosen are long enough to support the addition of the reinforcement plate with the taller spacers.

I'm currently using 25mm long bolts with the factory spacers, and still have a few threads showing underneath the strut mount. The reinforcement plate can't be any thicker than 5mm.

Don't worry, I've done my homework on making sure the bolts are long enough.
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Ok, my car is silent with the credit card stuffed under the brace.
I think the obvious better solution would to simply drill a hole thru the thin sheet metal, and put in a machine screw to hold the two sheets together. Put some locktite and a lock washer and good to go pretty much permanently. Now that my driver side is quiet, i do hear a tiny version of the noise from the passenger side. There is a very small space there, I'm guessing about .008 or .012 or so.
looks like i have to take the cowl piece off to get a drill bit in there, but one screw per side should do it.

The sound (on mine anyway) is simply the sheet metal of the brace hitting the sheet metal of the top of the tower. Those tow pieces fit together in a compound curve. Hard to fabricate that exactly. there need to be more attachment points between the pieces. Thus the machine screw.
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Ok, my car is silent with the credit card stuffed under the brace.
I think the obvious better solution would to simply drill a hole thru the thin sheet metal, and put in a machine screw to hold the two sheets together. Put some locktite and a lock washer and good to go pretty much permanently. Now that my driver side is quiet, i do hear a tiny version of the noise from the passenger side. There is a very small space there, I'm guessing about .008 or .012 or so.
looks like i have to take the cowl piece off to get a drill bit in there, but one screw per side should do it.

The sound (on mine anyway) is simply the sheet metal of the brace hitting the sheet metal of the top of the tower. Those tow pieces fit together in a compound curve. Hard to fabricate that exactly. there need to be more attachment points between the pieces. Thus the machine screw.
I think a better solution is to install the brace with the reinforcing plate. If there is indeed that much movement between the existing parts, a sheet metal screw isn't going to cut it. You need to address the structural weakness of the strut tower.
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