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Old 11-05-2012, 07:12 AM   #61
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If cars could talk I do wonder what some people's Foci would say...
I think "my owner is a g idiot" would be #1, I really do.
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You know Consumer Reports is pretty awful right? And that they are extremely biased?
They don't take advertising, so, what influences their results?
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:36 AM   #63
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free products to the board of directors, that's what.
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That's funny ... when looking back at all the cars I've owned .... their analysis and experience with 'troublespots' has been dead on accurate. I wonder how many detractors would be so negative on CR if they had given the Focus great ratings.

Regarding ratings, they're obviously weighted .... an otherwise great car can easily get a 'not acceptable' if anything safety related has issues, even if 14 of the other 15 categories are good.

Their mileage ratings have also been almost exactly what I've gotten in long-term use.

Motor Trend and Automobile magazine say the exact same thing about the DCT and MFT, so I guess they have no credibility either ....

Anybody who even now continues to maintain that there aren't real problems with the DCT or MFT simply has their head in the sand .... or somewhere else ....


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Old 11-05-2012, 03:47 PM   #65
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They don't take advertising, so, what influences their results?
Selling magazines I'd guess. If they're biased it generates controversy and thus publicity about their magazine, at least that's about the best I can come up with. Otherwise they're just a bunch of idiots and have no reason for being biased other than their own personal opinions.

Have you ever seen the reason why they put cars, or anything really, on their "Do Not Recommend List"? They are typically off-the-wall, stupid reasons that have no impact on whether the product is actually good or not. As an example they put the Ford Edge on the "Do Not Buy" list because of the MFT being to complicated to use. Not that it's poorly made, uncomfortable, or unreliable, just that it has a complicated optional feature.

If you're going to buy a new car I think the last place you should probably looks is a publication that tests toasters in the same way it tests cars.

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Anybody who even now continues to maintain that there aren't real problems with the DCT or MFT simply has their head in the sand .... or somewhere else
I don't believe there are problems anymore. After they updated my transmission I haven't had one problem.
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That's funny ... when looking back at all the cars I've owned .... their analysis and experience with 'troublespots' has been dead on accurate. I wonder how many detractors would be so negative on CR if they had given the Focus great ratings.

Regarding ratings, they're obviously weighted .... an otherwise great car can easily get a 'not acceptable' if anything safety related has issues, even if 14 of the other 15 categories are good.

Their mileage ratings have also been almost exactly what I've gotten in long-term use.

Motor Trend and Automobile magazine say the exact same thing about the DCT and MFT, so I guess they have no credibility either ....

Anybody who even now continues to maintain that there aren't real problems with the DCT or MFT simply has their head in the sand .... or somewhere else ....



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Actually someone who worked at CR wrote a book about that very thing. Unbiased is a term they use loosely.
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Actually someone who worked at CR wrote a book about that very thing. Unbiased is a term they use loosely.
This is the company that gave the Edge a boot because MFT was too complicated. Not because the car was actually bad.

I trust them about as far as I could throw one of their biased and useless "testers".

I'll stick to MT, C/D, Inside Line, Evo and sources that actually test a car as a car.

Not guys who review toasters in the same magazine.
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Actually someone who worked at CR wrote a book about that very thing. Unbiased is a term they use loosely.
Title? Author? I'd like to read that before I ever consider re subscribing.
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Title? Author? I'd like to read that before I ever consider re subscribing.

Bet you never get the above info .....

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It was several years ago and I don't remember the author but the title of the book was 'Unbiased Lie'
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