I think this car is underrated by at least 12 HP - Focus Fanatics
Ford Focus Forum
HomeContact UsAbout UsGalleryDiscussion ForumsMarketplace


Go Back   Focus Fanatics > Ford Focus Third Generation > DURATEC Ti-VCT Performance (2012-Current)

DURATEC Ti-VCT Performance (2012-Current) The place to chat about any Duratec 2.0L Ti-VCT engine performance, tuning and exhaust related upgrades.

Search This Forum | Image Search | Advanced Search    
Ford Focus Tire & Wheels FocusFanatics Merchandise

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-04-2012, 07:04 AM   #1
TCOC rel1
Focus Enthusiast
 
TCOC rel1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 105626
Location: Twin Cities, MN
What I Drive: 2013 Black DCT SE

Posts: 94
FF Reputation: 0 TCOC rel1 Newbie
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
I think this car is underrated by at least 12 HP

There is no way a stock car lays down 141 RWHP with 160 at the FW.

your thoughts?


TCOC rel1 is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-04-2012, 07:22 AM   #2
TboneZX3
Ford Fiend
 
TboneZX3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Fan#: 90494
Location: Jackson, MO
What I Drive: '12 SE Sport, '01 ZX3, '67 Bronco

Posts: 2,179
FF Reputation: 10 TboneZX3 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
It's hard to say without knowing drivetrain losses. I don't think 12% loss is way off the mark for a manual trans in a FWD car.
__________________
Hatch Nation #90
'12 SE Sport 5Dr |╠╬╝|Sterling Grey Metallic|203a|Moonroof|17" Paint/Mach Whls|K&N 57S-4000|FFE RMM|Steeda STB, RSB|JBR bushings
'01 ZX3|╠╬╝|Pitch Black|Prem. pkg.|Moonroof|SVT Snorkel|SVT Springs|S2 Dampers|Steeda STS|Magnaflow exh.
TboneZX3 is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 07:25 AM   #3
mikebontoft
Toxx
 
mikebontoft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Fan#: 58647
Location: SLC, UT
What I Drive: 5.9L Grand Cherokee ZJ

Posts: 25,765
FF Reputation: 76 mikebontoft Excellent Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (3)
sorry but what car are we talking about? the focus has 0 rwhp unless were talking a v8 swapped one.
__________________
SR #127 | '02 Focus SE "Foci" (5.0 RWD - parting) | '90 Mazda 626 GT "Greenie" (2.2L turbo T3/T4 rebuild-sold) | '75 BMW 2002 "Carby" (resto-mod racecar) | '75 BMW 2002 (donor -sold) | '98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L (lifted and fast) | '99 BMW 328is (alt. daily).
Moderating General Chat Lounge, General Technical Chat, Ford Focus & General Car Chat, and Rocky Mountain Fanatics
mikebontoft is online now  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 07:30 AM   #4
TCOC rel1
Focus Enthusiast
 
TCOC rel1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 105626
Location: Twin Cities, MN
What I Drive: 2013 Black DCT SE

Posts: 94
FF Reputation: 0 TCOC rel1 Newbie
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikebontoft View Post
sorry but what car are we talking about? the focus has 0 rwhp unless were talking a v8 swapped one.
My bad on the rwhp, been into V-8's to long, this is my first 4. I ment fwhp...

Thank you for correcting me XD
TCOC rel1 is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 07:35 AM   #5
mikebontoft
Toxx
 
mikebontoft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Fan#: 58647
Location: SLC, UT
What I Drive: 5.9L Grand Cherokee ZJ

Posts: 25,765
FF Reputation: 76 mikebontoft Excellent Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (3)
its all good I'm just making funnies.

that seems like a legitimate number though.
__________________
SR #127 | '02 Focus SE "Foci" (5.0 RWD - parting) | '90 Mazda 626 GT "Greenie" (2.2L turbo T3/T4 rebuild-sold) | '75 BMW 2002 "Carby" (resto-mod racecar) | '75 BMW 2002 (donor -sold) | '98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L (lifted and fast) | '99 BMW 328is (alt. daily).
Moderating General Chat Lounge, General Technical Chat, Ford Focus & General Car Chat, and Rocky Mountain Fanatics
mikebontoft is online now  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 07:40 AM   #6
TCOC rel1
Focus Enthusiast
 
TCOC rel1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 105626
Location: Twin Cities, MN
What I Drive: 2013 Black DCT SE

Posts: 94
FF Reputation: 0 TCOC rel1 Newbie
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TboneZX3 View Post
It's hard to say without knowing drivetrain losses. I don't think 12% loss is way off the mark for a manual trans in a FWD car.
DCT's are recording 141 fwhp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQQ-K...ure=watch-vrec
TCOC rel1 is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 07:57 AM   #7
mikebontoft
Toxx
 
mikebontoft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Fan#: 58647
Location: SLC, UT
What I Drive: 5.9L Grand Cherokee ZJ

Posts: 25,765
FF Reputation: 76 mikebontoft Excellent Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (3)
located in Florida... sea level at least. I hate where I live. 5950 feet above sea level. so much power loss.
__________________
SR #127 | '02 Focus SE "Foci" (5.0 RWD - parting) | '90 Mazda 626 GT "Greenie" (2.2L turbo T3/T4 rebuild-sold) | '75 BMW 2002 "Carby" (resto-mod racecar) | '75 BMW 2002 (donor -sold) | '98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L (lifted and fast) | '99 BMW 328is (alt. daily).
Moderating General Chat Lounge, General Technical Chat, Ford Focus & General Car Chat, and Rocky Mountain Fanatics
mikebontoft is online now  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 08:27 AM   #8
dyn085
That Guy
 
dyn085's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Fan#: 98047
Location: Fayetteville, NC
What I Drive: 2014 FiST/FoST

Posts: 11,906
FF Reputation: 46 dyn085 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (5)
You don't necessarily have to believe it, that's your choice. My car put 144hp in OEM configuration. Most all OEM graphs have been showing high 130's/low 140's,

If worse comes to worst, then you can always go and put your car on the dyno
__________________

FocusFest 2013: Best of Show
Gateway FFW: Show Class Outstanding
September '13 ROTM
2014 FiST-
dyn085 is online now  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 08:35 AM   #9
mac.mogul
Focus Fanatic
 
mac.mogul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Fan#: 90409
Location: Wichita, KS
What I Drive: 2011 Sterling Grey SES Sedan

Posts: 3,664
FF Reputation: 13 mac.mogul Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Seems pretty standard fair. FWD typically has lower drivetrain loss than RWD and with the new DCT transmission, the drivetrain loss is less than a traditional automatic.

The engines are rated 160hp, dynos show 140+
My engine is rated 143hp and dynos show about 120 so.. yeah seems about right on the mark to me.
__________________
2011 SES 5spd #006 >> SR #213

What other people think of me is none of my business.
mac.mogul is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 07:37 PM   #10
blank102
Focus Enthusiast
 
blank102's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Fan#: 96549
Location: Northern, CA
What I Drive: 2012 Sterling Grey SE HB

Posts: 333
FF Reputation: 1 blank102 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
And overrated by 12 ft lbs of torque.
blank102 is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks & Social Networks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:21 PM.


Copyright 2002-2014 FocusFanatics.com. All Rights Reserved : Terms of Use : Privacy Policy : Advertise Information : Site Map

Focus Fanatics Ford Focus Forum offers many fun ways for you to engage with other Ford Focus Owners from across the world. Whether it be about the aftermarket performance modifications, technical how-to's, European tuned suspension or awesome fuel economy similar to the Acura TLX or Fiesta ST. You can find all Ford Focus and Focus ST related information here. Join our Ford Focus discussion forums and chat with local Focus enthusiasts in your area.