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Old 10-31-2012, 01:44 PM   #21
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Tom wasn't trying to cast you out here. He was just merely stating the fact that he has seen performance runs on a dyno when people are using E85. I know a few people who have ran E85 also. They get mixed results varying on where and when they get it. Just because you have some experience on it does not make you an expert on it by any means. As Tom and I have said before, there really is no regulation on E85. That means you can have an octane rating of 102 one day then the next delivery will be down around 82 octane. The only thing I would suggest to someone is to read up and learn as much as you can about E85 before even attempting to use it.

I appreciate your feedback, Don. As I stated in my last post, I don't claim to be an expert on the subject. I just have personal experience using it. If you, Tom or others have done tests on a dyno to verify the data, then you perhaps have better information than I do. I am just wondering how old that data is. The ethanol process has changed dramatically since its inception in the 1970's. Much of the negative information that is out there on the web is based on that old DOE data from the '70's and is no longer valid. As to the statement that it is not regulated, where do you get that from? It most certainly is regulated in Minnesota and has to meet a specific standard. Since 2007 it has been blended nation wide at up to 10% as per the RFS of the "Energy Independence and Security Act" and this act set some standards for ethanol production and use.
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I have been testing and trying to get e85 to work with proper tuning on my dyno for more then 10 years , I have paid the fee of almost 200.00 to get the octane test , tested it in my car both out of the pump and in 55 gallon drums , out of the drum which a much better reading it was still only 94.7 octane

Just so those that dont know me dont think these are just opinions and me ranting

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I appreciate your feedback, Don. As I stated in my last post, I don't claim to be an expert on the subject. I just have personal experience using it. If you, Tom or others have done tests on a dyno to verify the data, then you perhaps have better information than I do. I am just wondering how old that data is. The ethanol process has changed dramatically since its inception in the 1970's. Much of the negative information that is out there on the web is based on that old DOE data from the '70's and is no longer valid. As to the statement that it is not regulated, where do you get that from? It most certainly is regulated in Minnesota and has to meet a specific standard. Since 2007 it has been blended nation wide at up to 10% as per the RFS of the "Energy Independence and Security Act" and this act set some standards for ethanol production and use.
Altho this is true there are no octane standards , thats what needs to clearly be set and placed on the pumps and till they do you will still get 89 one day and 95 another , thats where the problem comes in

as for the 30% blend its already blended with fuel so the amount of "e" your getting wouldnt be enough to do anything

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Update: I filled up yesterday, not a full tank, but I put in about 6 gallons of 87 and 1 gallon E85. I have driven about 20 miles with this mix so far and ik thats not much but it does some to accelerate a little better, might be the placebo effect but I really wasnt try to think about it while driving. I'll see today how the MPG's go as I have to drive another 25 miles to work. With these mixed reviews I might just stay 87, but I'll have to see how many miles I can gain with E85 and if nothing and even possibly lose mileage, I'll stick to regular.
Glad to hear you gave it a try. Let us all know how it works for you after you run a tank through. I'll be curious to see if you get thee same results that I have seen.
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