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Old 10-27-2012, 12:59 PM   #11
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The handling package is a good deal, and the PS3s are awesome, but I just traded those tires in and got a set of ultra high performance all seasons so I don't have to mess with two sets of wheels and tires. The only downside to the handling package is the giant turning radius the car gets because of it.

I doubt applink will make it to our cars any time soon, but I have no issues with Pandora or iHeart radio either via usb or bluetooth streaming.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:56 PM   #12
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Hey folks I'm going to be in the market very soon for a new Focus Titanium...I intend to order a Focus Titanium with a 5spd manual transmission. I'm kinda torn between a few options and I'd like some insight on what you guys think I should do. I currently drive an 07 Accord EX-L 5spd that's been a great car but its beginning to show its age and have its problems and it lacks so much in the way of Infotainment equipment that I've decided I want something new.

Right now I live in South Carolina but will very soon be moving to Chicago, I intend to buy the Focus in SC because the rebates available here are much better than they are in Chicago-land. Right now I qualify for $3395 in rebates with the $2000 cash rebate, $500 competitive rebate, $395 Sync rebate and a recent $500 coupon I got in the mail from Ford. I'm LOVING THIS!

My options so far consist of the follow:

-5door hatchback of course ;)
-5spd manual transmission option of course ;)
-Titanium Handling pkg
-Power Moonroof
-Navigation
-Engine Block Heater (I'll need it in Chicago)
-Exterior Protection pkg (Again, may be needed once I move back to Chicago and I like splash guards)
-Stainless Steel kick plates
-Ruby Red paint

I'm sort of torn between the Titanium Handling pkg or just getting the optional 17 inch polished wheels. Since I'll be moving back to Chicago and the Handling pkg has "Summer tires" do you think the Handling pkg is something I should be considering? I'm not real fond of the 17s that are now standard on the Titanium (I didn't like the wheels from 2012 either) and the price difference between the 17s and the Handling pkg with its 18s is only $100. I've read a few places here that the 18s are expensive to replace? Any cheaper all-season alternatives I should consider? I honestly know very little about tires. But I like the look of the Handling pkg's wheels on the Focus.

I'm also concerned about MyFord Touch and Pandora. I know Ford has announced that AppLink will be coming to 2013 Focus models soon, yet nobody can tell me when it will happen. I'm concerned that I'll end up ordering a Focus and in a few short months the AppLink will be available. I know Ford does updates on the system often, would AppLink be one of those things that could be updated later on if I bought a Focus now or would I miss out on it? I listen to Pandora a lot on my job and I've come to love it. I can tune Pandora in thru the radio but none of the displays and functions are available at the moment and that's disappointing. I recently test drove a new Accord Sport and linked my phone up with Pandora, it was really easy to do! Unfortunately for me the Accord Sport lacks too much equipment for me to consider it. I hate that Honda no longer will allow you to option out an EX-L with a manual transmission, if they would I'd probably buy a new Accord over everything else.

I'm also considering the new Fusion. I've talked with my salesmen about ordering a 1.6t/6mt, I'm told it could take up to 12 weeks to come from Mexico but that typical wait times is 6-8 weeks.

The new Fusion supposedly has AppLink already available, the model I'd be choosing would be an SE with the Appearance pkg, Moonroof, MyFord Touch and Navigation. It cost about $1500 more than the Focus Titanium I'm leaning toward purchasing. I really want Push button start and its not available on anything other than the Fusion Titanium.

I know I've given you folks a whole lot in this one message but any advice on any of the "concerns" I have would be much appreciated!

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The streets in Chicago are terrible, don't get the handling package unless you want to be beat to death. The wind off the lake will take your breath away to say the least, it is cold. The block heater is extremely cheap, I think it was $35 on my car, Go for it, not only will it make the car a little more comfortable but will help slightly with gas mileage.
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:37 PM   #13
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The streets in Chicago are terrible, don't get the handling package unless you want to be beat to death. The wind off the lake will take your breath away to say the least, it is cold. The block heater is extremely cheap, I think it was $35 on my car, Go for it, not only will it make the car a little more comfortable but will help slightly with gas mileage.
Definitely want to get the block heater, especially since it only cost $35. Chicago's roads are TERRIBLE indeed LOL, I was up there last week for my birthday, my poor little Honda took a beating. I lived in Chicago back in 2007 and 2008, it was cold, but I actually loved it.

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The handling package is a good deal, and the PS3s are awesome, but I just traded those tires in and got a set of ultra high performance all seasons so I don't have to mess with two sets of wheels and tires. The only downside to the handling package is the giant turning radius the car gets because of it.

I doubt applink will make it to our cars any time soon, but I have no issues with Pandora or iHeart radio either via usb or bluetooth streaming.
Kinda makes me sad about AppLink, I really want that feature in my car.

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Get the handling package. In Chicago, you will buy a complete set of 4 wheels with snow tires mounted, you won't want salt on your good wheels. You just switch out wheels fall and spring.

Can't help you on the tech stuff, but I want to buy your honda when you are ready.
Definitely gonna look into some spare sets!

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In regards to the wheels, if you get the handling package then you will want to just purchase a set of winter wheels/tires if you have snow. That is an approximate $800 cost (more or less depending on what you want out of them), but the PS3's are expensive indeed at $1k or more. I wouldn't recommend all-seasons if you have snow, mostly because the wheels are 8" wide.

If it is only a $100 premium over the non-handling package, I would say that your worst case scenario is buying the Handling Package and throwing a set of 17's on after the fact. You could probably trade your wheels for something you like and get more than enough cash on top of it to cover the premium. Then you have the handling package suspension, wheels that are less expensive to wrap, the possibility of installing all-seasons that won't be as detrimental in bad weather due to a narrower width, and additional cash to-boot...

Fwiw, I absolutely love the 18's in both looks and wet/dry performance. I don't have snow to deal with though. There are also 17's in a multi-spoke pattern that look really good, but you have to search pretty hard for them and most owners don't want to come off of them...
I actually like the 18s too, they look sharp, even the sedan looks good with those wheels.

Also, my salesman told me recently that Ford is voiding warranties on customers who are cleaning their rims/wheels with aftermarket cleaning solutions. He told me that Ford has a certain cleaner that they recommend and that using other brands or cleaners would weaken the rims and that if those rims fail Ford won't cover them under warranty. Is this true? I've never heard of anything like this. Thanks again for EVERYTHING you guys. Ya'll reply FAST!
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Also, my salesman told me recently that Ford is voiding warranties on customers who are cleaning their rims/wheels with aftermarket cleaning solutions. He told me that Ford has a certain cleaner that they recommend and that using other brands or cleaners would weaken the rims and that if those rims fail Ford won't cover them under warranty. Is this true? I've never heard of anything like this. Thanks again for EVERYTHING you guys. Ya'll reply FAST!
Its not that the wheels would become weakened, but certain wheel cleaning products can acid etch the wheels and mar the finish, if you use the wrong type of cleaner and you then try to claim the wheels were damaged by other means and should be covered by warranty they won't cover it as they told you not to use acid based wheel cleaners.
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Definitely want to get the block heater, especially since it only cost $35.
Let me know if you ever use it. In my twelve years in Minnesota I never once got to use it even once on any of the three cars I owned thus equipped.
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What do you mean hatchback and 5spd of course? Do they offer a manual trans on the Titanium now, they didn't in 2012 when I got my car. Sedan and DCT for hipsters and morons ? ;)

Despite having 18's, the suspension is firmer, but not harsh in anyways. I've hit lots of hard ice ruts and snow hits and rocks this year already and its totally fine. I'm running 195/65/15 snow tires now though, its not sports car firm the sport package, its a really nice mix between comfort and handling, I recommend it fully.

the 18's and PS3's offer quite a lot of grip, its worth it then run a dedicated snow tire in the winter. Block heater is good, keep it in the garage over the winter if you can too, helps up here where its known to get quite cold.
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I live in Toronto Canada and so far have never needed a block heater for any of my cars. It gets to be about 10 to 14 F on average here and so far all my cars have started without issue.
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What do you mean hatchback and 5spd of course? Do they offer a manual trans on the Titanium now, they didn't in 2012 when I got my car. Sedan and DCT for hipsters and morons ? ;)

Despite having 18's, the suspension is firmer, but not harsh in anyways. I've hit lots of hard ice ruts and snow hits and rocks this year already and its totally fine. I'm running 195/65/15 snow tires now though, its not sports car firm the sport package, its a really nice mix between comfort and handling, I recommend it fully.

the 18's and PS3's offer quite a lot of grip, its worth it then run a dedicated snow tire in the winter. Block heater is good, keep it in the garage over the winter if you can too, helps up here where its known to get quite cold.
They did offer them in 2012, maybe not when you got your car, but after Job 2 (3/5/12) they were starting to offer a 5MT as a no cost option on the Titanium in the U.S. and a $1000 credit or so in Canada over the DCT.

Now for 2013 all the model trim levels that have gasoline engines are available with a manual transmission, S, SE, Ti, are available with the 5mt, and ST is 6MT only
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