New 2013, should I have gotten a manual? - Page 3

REK21 · 10-16-2012, 12:01 PM

The shorter that awesome pause is, the faster the transmission is selecting a gear for you. Which in turn means the quicker you're putting power down to the pavement, which means you win the race.

You don't want that awesome pause, it's actually a quick moment when the car is not gaining any forward momentum.

Drew'sFoci · 10-16-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by REK21

The shorter that awesome pause is, the faster the transmission is selecting a gear for you. Which in turn means the quicker you're putting power down to the pavement, which means you win the race.

You don't want that awesome pause, it's actually a quick moment when the car is not gaining any forward momentum.

Well I have already lost to two civics which tears me apart, so my racing confidence has been reduced to nothing!

They had anami, or however you spell it, characters hanging from the back of thier cars! [Facepalm]

RonMaiden · 10-16-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by REK21

The shorter that awesome pause is, the faster the transmission is selecting a gear for you. Which in turn means the quicker you're putting power down to the pavement, which means you win the race.

You don't want that awesome pause, it's actually a quick moment when the car is not gaining any forward momentum.

With some cars and their auto trannys that probably is true but not with the Focus as the quickest 1/4 mile times so far have been recorded with the preffered choice of the auto rags which has bene the 5 speed. The DCT is still a good tranny but it seems it isn't quicker and has bugs that need to be sorted out as evident in many of the DCTs released.

I've driven a few DCTs and none impressed me and no matter how people try to say it's a manual it simply isn't and doesn't allow gear changes when the driver wants to as it acts like it knows better thus isn't a manual.

REK21 · 10-16-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RonMaiden

With some cars and their auto trannys that probably is true but not with the Focus as the quickest 1/4 mile times so far have been recorded with the preffered choice of the auto rags which has bene the 5 speed. The DCT is still a good tranny but it seems it isn't quicker and has bugs that need to be sorted out as evident in many of the DCTs released.

I've driven a few DCTs and none impressed me and no matter how people try to say it's a manual it simply isn't and doesn't allow gear changes when the driver wants to as it acts like it knows better thus isn't a manual.

I fully agree with you. I guess I was referring to a higher end or higher performance version of our DCT.

***suss6052*** · 10-17-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew'sFoci

Well I have already lost to two civics which tears me apart, so my racing confidence has been reduced to nothing!

They had anami, or however you spell it, characters hanging from the back of thier cars! [Facepalm]

There's your problem, no one said it was cool to be drag racing people on the street. Its Anime, by the way, not "anami, or however you spell it", it is a specific type of animation that originated in Japan.

Leave the street racing to the video games like Forza Horizon, or NFS Most Wanted/ etc, its not cool to do in real life and the consequences can be quite severe, especially if you mess up and wreck or cause the other car to crash into some one else killing or injuring people.

Of course if this was at the drag strip and you lost well then fair's fair, but on the street its a bad idea.

When the DCT has the next gear preselected and ready to go the changes are virtually instantaneous even when run to redline. Maybe its just that my car has worked with no issues from the gearbox, but I actually like the DCT much more than Ford's lack luster torque converter automatics. Although if the normal Focus had been available with a 6 speed manual with similar gear ratios I might have gone with it over the DCT, but since it did not and the 5MT had the same gear ratios as my last car which was 18 year old I wasn't as enthused about that prospect as good as the MTX75 is. I like having the engine only needing to spin at 2600 rpm at 70 and about 3000 at 80 mph vs 3000 at 70 and closer to 3500-4000 at 80 in the 5MT.

Drew'sFoci · 10-17-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by suss6052

There's your problem, no one said it was cool to be drag racing people on the street. Its Anime, by the way, not "anami, or however you spell it", it is a specific type of animation that originated in Japan.

Leave the street racing to the video games like Forza Horizon, or NFS Most Wanted/ etc, its not cool to do in real life and the consequences can be quite severe, especially if you mess up and wreck or cause the other car to crash into some one else killing or injuring people.

Of course if this was at the drag strip and you lost well then fair's fair, but on the street its a bad idea.

When the DCT has the next gear preselected and ready to go the changes are virtually instantaneous even when run to redline. Maybe its just that my car has worked with no issues from the gearbox, but I actually like the DCT much more than Ford's lack luster torque converter automatics. Although if the normal Focus had been available with a 6 speed manual with similar gear ratios I might have gone with it over the DCT, but since it did not and the 5MT had the same gear ratios as my last car which was 18 year old I wasn't as enthused about that prospect as good as the MTX75 is. I like having the engine only needing to spin at 2600 rpm at 70 and about 3000 at 80 mph vs 3000 at 70 and closer to 3500-4000 at 80 in the 5MT.

Street racing is very dumb! It was taken place at Milan drag strip in Michigan! And with the things dangling of the back, I don't care what they are called, they are completely dumb and annoying!

RonMaiden · 10-22-2012, 06:01 AM

Actually my engine turns at 3400 at 80mph and 2900 at 70mph so it's not like the DCT so the diff is only a few hundred RPM.

2kwik4u · 10-22-2012, 06:23 AM

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I like having the engine only needing to spin at 2600 rpm at 70 and about 3000 at 80 mph vs 3000 at 70 and closer to 3500-4000 at 80 in the 5MT.

This is the ONLY thing I have found to dislike about the manual trans. I had a 6spd in the RX8, and the Audi has a 6spd (auto) as well. I can't tell you how many times the reverse lockout has saved me on the expressway from shifting into what I thought was 6th out of habit.

A 6th gear would be a VERY welcome addition to the manual trans. Seems like the motor has enough power to pull the car along at speed with a drop to the 2300-2500 range instead of the 2900-3000 range it lives at now on the freeway.