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Old 10-10-2012, 10:35 PM   #241
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Question 3rd update

No word from dealership yet and it's 7:33PM PST.
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Old 10-11-2012, 01:09 AM   #242
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Dropped off my car today. Mentioned about them checking the seals on the transmission. I got a, "we'll test drive it to replicate your concerns and if we find anything we'll go from there" response.

The guy checked if there were any bulletins in regards to the problems mention with regard to the transmission, but he said there weren't any.

I'm doubtful this will get fixed, but i just can't swallow a financial loss on this car right now by trading it in for a different car.
Ditto on the financial loss.

The reason no dealers are fixing the cars are because TSB 11-12-13 only states to proceed if there is an external leakage of transmission fluid. As far as I know, you'll essentially need 2 failed seals. If just the internal seals are leaking, it destroys the clutch pack, but you're screwed because the dealer won't open the darn thing up!
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:31 AM   #243
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Dealerships are actually audited on TSB/Warranty related repair work. If they willy nilly decide to replace a part that's functioning perfectly on a customer's vehicle and then the audit shows that the replaced part actually was in good working order, the dealership foots the bill and doesn't get credit for the work. That's how I've come to understand it.

That said, almost everyone in this thread should have sufficient evidence to argue in their favor to get this TSB applied, afterall, we're all exhibiting similar issues, some worse than others, but similar nonetheless, this is NOT an isolated incident.
Interesting. I didn't know this. It has a certain amount of sense and logic to it, but clearly isn't being applied properly here.

Do you think the size and volume of the dealership may also be a factor? A large dealer is maybe able to be more flexible and justify claims to corporate whereas a small one needs to be more cautious and might not be given the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:07 AM   #244
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Interesting. I didn't know this. It has a certain amount of sense and logic to it, but clearly isn't being applied properly here.

Do you think the size and volume of the dealership may also be a factor? A large dealer is maybe able to be more flexible and justify claims to corporate whereas a small one needs to be more cautious and might not be given the benefit of the doubt.
My dealer is a monster with several lots in several locations and probably ten or so auto brands. The manager told me explicitly that he would love to open my gearbox up and prove me right, but Ford will not authorize it unless the leakage is visible. He spoke with engineering and they told him only to reprogram the tranny with the newest calibration. They open themselves up to other issues if the repair department just starts taking new cars apart because their customers want them to.

He expressed doubt and frustration to me as well, he knows damn well it's not gonna work either.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:57 AM   #245
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When people state that they are turning off traction control, Are you guys turning off the stability contol or is that something different?

Stability Control can save your life and others! Can you clarify?
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:59 AM   #246
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When people state that they are turning off traction control, Are you guys turning off the stability contol or is that something different?

Stability Control can save your life and others! Can you clarify?

I know of NO way to turn off Stability control. Were only turning off Traction Control.
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:24 AM   #247
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When people state that they are turning off traction control, Are you guys turning off the stability contol or is that something different?

Stability Control can save your life and others! Can you clarify?
There is no way to turn off stability control on these cars.
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:27 AM   #248
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When people state that they are turning off traction control, Are you guys turning off the stability contol or is that something different?

Stability Control can save your life and others! Can you clarify?
Stability programs can't be shut off, the only cars that Ford sells that do that are the Taurus SHO and Mustang.
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The manager told me explicitly that he would love to open my gearbox up and prove me right, but Ford will not authorize it unless the leakage is visible.
So... can I open it? Does it void my warranty?
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Well I got a call from dealership stating that 'all checks went ok and I should go an pick up my car'... Told 'em they can shove and keep and I'll keep driving rental until they will fix it.
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