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Old 08-29-2012, 04:58 PM   #41
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Thanks again for all the help, Chaddz3!

I did some more digging and I seem to be making some progress also.

I still have an E-mail to another Ford dealer, but I called Tousley Ford while I was waiting.

He found a fog light wire harness P/N of CV6Z15K867B - which lists for $14.32. He isn't sure it's the right one, but he showed one harness for "With Park Aid, With Fog lights" - which is probably the one I mentioned earlier, one for "With Park Aid, Without Fog Lights" - not sure what this would be on a Focus, unless the harness is used on other models, and the above for "Without Park Aid". It didn't say anything either way about fogs, but I think those are the only things those harnesses go to, so I assume it would be the fog portion of the harness, and the 15K867 center part of the number checks out.

The P/N of the BCM is BV6Z14A068LC and it lists for $222.23. He said it is the same part number for all 2013 SE's, so it probably supports fog lights, but he didn't know if it would need to be re-flashed. Not as expensive as I would have guessed from the comments in this thread and others.

Finally, the headlight switch is CM5Z11654 for a 2013 SE With Fogs and lists for $49.31 - which is odd b/c the 2012 switch was over $100 ...
Ok you're dealing with a '13 instead of a '12. I don't know what changes they made to the '13's over the '12's (if any..). As far as the light switch.. I wonder if they decided to offer a fog only version instead of bundling the auto lamps and fog version together like it appeared they did with the '12... (that might account for the difference in cost..).

For the BCM... yes it will need to be flashed if it is a new unit, since from what the service manual says they are shipped "stupid" (ie with no programming) and a dealer would have to flash it using IDS or the car will not start once its installed... (this info came from the f150 forums where someone tried swapping out a BCM from an XLT in to thiers to get the fogs to work)... I'm assuming our Foci would be setup similarly... If the BCM's from all '13 SE's are the same part number, and yours is an SE, you might be all good to go here... with the exception of possibly just having the fogs enabled using IDS... (that would be nice...)

Yanno... Ford could have made this easy on us all and just released a DIY install Kit with everything needed to install them on our cars... but... then again, they'd probably overprice the thing to oblivion... Anywho, Good luck on your setup... Hopefullly you can get everything setup and going without too much issue..
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:24 AM   #42
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Both the 12 and 13 SE trim has auto-lamps. The 13's also have a trunk release button on the headlight switch. Not sure on the price difference - seems like the switch was in the $40 range on Ford Parts also - but I might have been looking at the 13 version there.

On the BCM - I knew a brand new unit would need to be re-flashed, but I thought the dealer usually did that for the price of the unit (similar to if you replace a speedo cluster - they will usually program your existing mileage into it for free, but if you bring in a used one they charge a lot to re-program it).

I didn't realize enabling the fog lights in IDS was different from flashing the BCM - if so, that is good news also.

Do you have access to the Service Manual? - I'm curious about upper grille replacement as well - there a word description on here, but nothing with pictures.

Thanks again!!!
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Right now the only way I know of to get the Service/Shop Manuals is to get an online subscription to motorcraftservice.com... (i think thats the site...) They sell subscriptions from 3 days out to years at a time. Has access to all the manuals, TSB's, Recalls, and if you buy the IDS system and a laptop will interface with it and allow you to have your vehicle interact with OASIS..

I bought a month's subscription a while back and printed the manual (using the print to file option and have it stored on my PC for now)... the manual is well over 1000 pages... not to mention all the wiring diagrams... but it is well worth the few buck and time it takes to hit the site and print it off to pdf...
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That was the correct site and that is also a good idea on printing off the manual to PDF.
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2012 Ford Focus Model S Fog Lights Add On's Factory Wire

I have purchase the Factory Ford wire official part number CV6Z-15K867-B which was a total of $14.32. Not bad. It only took 30 mins to remove the panels and install. I already had the fog lights installed purchase them on e-bay for $75.00. The problem I ran into was per the Ford manual fuse #75 for the fog lights slot, there is no wire clip in the box to hold the fuse? I was thinking about just installing a jumper over to the parking lights, since I never use the high beams. Also looking at the 2012 Ford manual the light switch is different for the fog lights. The dash dimmer switch is all on the right and the fog light switch is on the left.
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The reason there is no fuse 75, is because the S model's Body Control Module does not support foglights.. none of the fog light circuit is present in that specific BCM, which also means you would not be able to use the factory fog lamp button in the headlight switch...

In order to get the fog lights to work, you would have to replace the original BCM with the one configured to work with fog lamps and replace the headlight switch to one with the fog lamp button...

The only other option is to use a toggle switch and build a stand alone fog lamp circuit driven off of both the igniton and parking lamps circuit using relays. (like I outlined in my instructions above. Posts 18 and 19..)... I do NOT recommend driving the fog lights directly off of the parking light circuit as this may overload and damage the parking light circuit in the BCM, requiring its replacement. Also running just off the parking light circuit will turn the fog lights on whenever the parking lights are on (such as when one of the doors or trunk opens, or when unlocking the car with the keyless entry.
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In order to get the fog lights to work, you would have to replace the original BCM with the one configured to work with fog lamps and replace the headlight switch to one with the fog lamp button...
And probably also get the dealer to enable the fog light circuit in their system (IDS?)

Chaddz3's solution above is your best bet for an S model.
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fog lights

So I'm new to the site. Ive read all the posts. Lots of good information and detailed work that's been done. I just have one question. Why not use a stand alone relay harness kit with a small discreet switch like some of the pilot kits. No wire tampering no splicing no worries no voiding warrenties. Not that all the work and write ups weren't good. But it shouldn't be difficult.
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I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused (I'm not a man of much education, took five years to get an Associate's degree). What exactly about my post came across as negative?
You have to be careful, there are some real sensitive types here on this forum.
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So I'm new to the site. Ive read all the posts. Lots of good information and detailed work that's been done. I just have one question. Why not use a stand alone relay harness kit with a small discreet switch like some of the pilot kits. No wire tampering no splicing no worries no voiding warrenties. Not that all the work and write ups weren't good. But it shouldn't be difficult.
I did this once on a car. I bought a fog light wiring kit from Advance, interfaced it with factory fog lights and had a hidden toggle switch under the lip of the bottom edge of the dash. It was easy to reach, but you could not see it you had to feel for it. Very easy and from the outside of the car the lights were "factory".
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