Focus ST or Dart RT or VW GTI?? - Page 4

MyThIc3LiTe · 10-04-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bball40dtw

The MKVI GTI is a slight revision of MKV. Almost all the changes were just cosmetic. The reliabilty should be excellent (for a VW), because the platform has basically been out since 2005.

Both cars will be expensive to maintain compared to Civics and Corollas. Be ready to pay higher prices for oil changes, brakes, tires, recommended service, etc. Winter tires/wheels are a must. The GTI does have extremely expensive 40K service, especially if you go with a DSG.

It has a more powerful engine and revised suspension.

No duh it will be more expensive on maintenance.

I'd also point out that Honda and Toyota aren't even competitors in this market. The Si? Please. Hardly. It may be cheaper but the Veloster Turbo walks all over it.

Kabigon · 10-04-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MyThIc3LiTe

No duh it will be more expensive on maintenance.

Duh?

Did you mean to say "doubt"?

bsp_53 · 10-04-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bball40dtw

ST with Recaros. Done.

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BlueIce · 10-04-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xpartmgr

I must admit the ST was sweet! I am just so soured on the electronics issues that I wonder if the ST will suffer from similar issues?

Get the ST. The best thing that ever happened to me was totaling my '08 MkV GTI. Those cars have soooo many problems, it's hard to keep up. Im just lucky I had a friend that was a VW technician to help me out with things.

I loved the car, but I can promise I won't EVER be buying another VW. The reliability was poor at best and the maintenance was RIDICULOUSLY expensive.

MyThIc3LiTe · 10-04-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kabigon

Duh?

Did you mean to say "doubt"?

Nope, I meant duh. In the mocking sense.

Its not a surprise that VWs are just more expensive to maintain, their hot models even more so.

It also comes with the territory once you get into cars that start at around 30k, here at any rate, things just will get more expensive.

pozi240 · 10-04-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MyThIc3LiTe

The Si? Please. Hardly. It may be cheaper but the Veloster Turbo walks all over it.

But your tongue for even mentioning the Veloster in this segment!

Turbo or not, its an Accent with a different body, and a VERY ugly one at that, nothing more. Eeew. Even the Si (which can't compare totally), is at least in this segment and has the fit and finish to compete.... can't say that of the uber cheap tin can that is the Veloster.... hahaha.

Burns098356GX · 10-04-2012, 06:10 PM

Can't you get an ST without MFT? I would go that route.

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MyThIc3LiTe · 10-04-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pozi240

But your tongue for even mentioning the Veloster in this segment!

Turbo or not, its an Accent with a different body, and a VERY ugly one at that, nothing more. Eeew. Even the Si (which can't compare totally), is at least in this segment and has the fit and finish to compete.... can't say that of the uber cheap tin can that is the Veloster.... hahaha.

Really?

Jesus.

The Si has the fit and finish? LOL WHAT THE

?

The Veloster still beats the Si in interior fit and finish, trim, and build quality.

Why am I surprised, people on the internet thinking they are so knowledgeable. Go drive one and you'll see how bad it makes the Civic look, and it may just be a Accent with a body kit as you say, which is also a sad statement, but its a pretty good car.

And apart from not receiving the suspenion upgrades along with the turbo, the Veloster still managed to hang in with the actual hot hatches. Yea it will suffer in outright handling because its not as beefed up, but its 0-60 and top end aren't lacking and nor is the fact that the forced induction motors are a hell of a lot more exploitable then any NA motor can dream to be.

And if you want to know how the cars actually are, the Si is hardly a player in the segment anymore. Its gotten fatter over the years, it currently sits at 2900 pounds - 3000 pounds depending on coupe or sedan, its lightness bonus has gone out the window when everyone else especially the WRX, ST, MS3 and now MK7 GTI come back with more firepower. For reference, the Veloster Turbo only weighs 2800 with the manual and I believe only 2900 with the auto. The regular Veloster embarrasses every car in the class in terms of weight too.

And it may just be an Accent with a body kit, your words again, yet its interior cargo space and dimensions only pale the Elantra GT by upwards of a few inches in most areas, so its hardly a small car inside. It is in the same segment as our cars and its actually one of the better ones.

Unless you are a badge whore or something, I can see how that would mess with your view that Hyundai sucks, Honda makes the second coming of Jesus, and VWs always break down.

jdetzel · 10-04-2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueIce

Get the ST. The best thing that ever happened to me was totaling my '08 MkV GTI. Those cars have soooo many problems, it's hard to keep up. Im just lucky I had a friend that was a VW technician to help me out with things.

I loved the car, but I can promise I won't EVER be buying another VW. The reliability was poor at best and the maintenance was RIDICULOUSLY expensive.

So which color are you getting? Focus, Focus, Focus