Shelby mod? - Page 2 - Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum
Ford Focus Forum
HomeContact UsAbout UsGalleryDiscussion ForumsMarketplace


Go Back   Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum > Ford Focus Third Generation > MK3 Focus

MK3 Focus The place to chat about general questions, window tinting, exterior body, interior and lighting upgrades for the third generation 2012-Current Focus.

Search This Forum | Image Search | Advanced Search    
Ford Focus Tire & Wheels FocusFanatics Merchandise

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-30-2012, 07:48 PM   #11
Power Surge
Focus Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2008
Fan#: 55878
Location: Palm Coast, FL, FL
What I Drive: 2012 Race Red SE 5-door

Posts: 333
FF Reputation: 1 Power Surge Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by zehkaiser View Post
Ah, yeah. Didn't think about the DCT. They're only rated to 180 HP, right? Or was it TQ? Either way, you'd need a manual and a more sturdy unibody for a 'charged V8.
If I was doing a V8, it would have a V8 trans behind it.

I thought I read the DCT was rated for like 300 something ft-lbs, but that's still not enough IMO to handle abuse. I doubt the electric clutches could handle holding big power.
__________________
Sal
2012 Race Red 5-door SE, 18" Ti wheels, Ti headlights/fog bezels, 20% tint, debadged trunk
2002 Sonic Blue SVT - supercharged (sold)
2008 Vista Blue SE (gone)
Power Surge is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-30-2012, 07:50 PM   #12
zehkaiser
Focus Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2012
Fan#: 98706
Location: Fletcher, NC
What I Drive: 2012 Tux Black Focus Titanium Hatch

Posts: 177
FF Reputation: 1 zehkaiser Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
You could be right; I read the 180 on the forums here. But why would they put a tranny rated so high in a car like ours? Seems to me it would be a waste of money.
zehkaiser is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 08:39 PM   #13
suss6052
Focus Addict
 
suss6052's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Fan#: 95752
Location: ..., MI
What I Drive: 2013 Ford Focus ST2 Ingot Silver

Posts: 12,388
FF Reputation: 23 suss6052 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (3)
Quote:
Originally Posted by zehkaiser View Post
Ah, yeah. Didn't think about the DCT. They're only rated to 180 HP, right? Or was it TQ? Either way, you'd need a manual and a more sturdy unibody for a 'charged V8.
250 N-m of torque or about 180 lb-ft of torque is the limit for what the DCT is rated for, the MTX-75 might handle a little bit more, but not v8 levels of torque.
suss6052 is online now  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 08:41 PM   #14
suss6052
Focus Addict
 
suss6052's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Fan#: 95752
Location: ..., MI
What I Drive: 2013 Ford Focus ST2 Ingot Silver

Posts: 12,388
FF Reputation: 23 suss6052 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (3)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Power Surge View Post
If I was doing a V8, it would have a V8 trans behind it.

I thought I read the DCT was rated for like 300 something ft-lbs, but that's still not enough IMO to handle abuse. I doubt the electric clutches could handle holding big power.
Nope, only the wet clutch versions go above 200 lb-ft of torque, the dry clutch version is rated for somewhere in the neighborhood of 250-280 N-m or 180-183 lb-ft of torque. The 250 in the DCT250 on the spec page from Getrag indicates its torque capacity at 250 N-m (newton-meters)
suss6052 is online now  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 08:41 PM   #15
Power Surge
Focus Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2008
Fan#: 55878
Location: Palm Coast, FL, FL
What I Drive: 2012 Race Red SE 5-door

Posts: 333
FF Reputation: 1 Power Surge Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by suss6052 View Post
250 N-m of torque or about 180 lb-ft of torque is the limit for what the DCT is rated for, the MTX-75 might handle a little bit more, but not v8 levels of torque.
I knew I saw a different number...curse Newton and his meters.
__________________
Sal
2012 Race Red 5-door SE, 18" Ti wheels, Ti headlights/fog bezels, 20% tint, debadged trunk
2002 Sonic Blue SVT - supercharged (sold)
2008 Vista Blue SE (gone)
Power Surge is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 09:09 PM   #16
suss6052
Focus Addict
 
suss6052's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Fan#: 95752
Location: ..., MI
What I Drive: 2013 Ford Focus ST2 Ingot Silver

Posts: 12,388
FF Reputation: 23 suss6052 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (3)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Power Surge View Post
I knew I saw a different number...curse Newton and his meters.
http://www.getrag.com/en/231

Quote:
KEY FEATURES

Max. Torque Capacity 240 - 280 Nm
Weight (dry) 72 -82 kg (incl. damper/DMF)
Installation length 350 - 400 mm
Input Shaft - Differential 183 - 205 mm
Oil 1.7 - 1.9 l
Ratio 1st gear 15 - 18.5
Ratio 6th gear 2.1 - 4
Gear Spread Ratio max 7.2
Synchronization
1st and 2nd gear dual cone
3rd and 4th gear single cone
5th and 6th gear single cone
Control unit integrated (only one plug to the vehicle)
Parking lock mechanically actuated and locked
Shifter System electromechanical actuation of the dry clutch and shifting system
Since that essentially matches the description of our powershift dry dual clutch automated manual transmission at least from the getrag side of things.

The ford specific version is built in their joint venture plant in Mexico.
suss6052 is online now  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 10:06 PM   #17
NickCornell
Focus Fanatic
 
NickCornell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Fan#: 97233
Location: Indiana, PA
What I Drive: 2012 Race red Focus SEL

Posts: 4,699
FF Reputation: 12 NickCornell Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
What's the ST rated for?
__________________
#SonicsMK3Crew
Follow #projectstreetdevil on IG @BBNickC
BUILD THREAD: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323533
NickCornell is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 10:10 PM   #18
Michael Jackson
Focus Enthusiast
 
Michael Jackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Fan#: 104370
Location: Dubuque, IA
What I Drive: 2013 Tuxedo Black Hatchback

Posts: 50
FF Reputation: 1 Michael Jackson Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Please. No.
Michael Jackson is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 10:13 PM   #19
suss6052
Focus Addict
 
suss6052's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Fan#: 95752
Location: ..., MI
What I Drive: 2013 Ford Focus ST2 Ingot Silver

Posts: 12,388
FF Reputation: 23 suss6052 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (3)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCornell View Post
What's the ST rated for?
The engine? 252 hp, 270 lb-ft of torque, the MMT6 transaxle I'm not as sure about.
suss6052 is online now  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2012, 10:17 PM   #20
zehkaiser
Focus Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2012
Fan#: 98706
Location: Fletcher, NC
What I Drive: 2012 Tux Black Focus Titanium Hatch

Posts: 177
FF Reputation: 1 zehkaiser Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
I'm sure it isn't rated for too much more than the motor.
zehkaiser is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks & Social Networks
-->
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:24 PM.


Copyright 2002-2014 FocusFanatics.com. All Rights Reserved : Terms of Use : Privacy Policy : Advertise Information

Focus Fanatics Ford Focus Forum offers many fun ways for you to engage with other Ford Focus Owners from across the world. Whether it be about the aftermarket performance modifications, technical how-to's, European tuned suspension or awesome fuel economy similar to the Acura TLX or Fiesta ST. You can find all Ford Focus and Focus ST related information here. Join our Ford Focus discussion forums and chat with local Focus enthusiasts in your area.