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Old 09-12-2012, 10:47 AM   #11
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why would anybody buy a TI when an ST is cheaper?
Id get an ST if, the DCT was an option. That alone would prevent me from getting a ST.
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:48 AM   #12
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why would anybody buy a TI when an ST is cheaper?
Obviously some one who valued luxury and toys over power and performance. Also the Ti is available with an automated manual transmission, the ST is only available with a traditional sliding gear manual and not everyone in the U.S. knows how to drive a manual car, nor do they seem willing to learn.

Of course I'd likely go for the ST over the Ti, but the base ST is essentially an SE with the body kit and turbocharged 2.0L GTDI engine and a 6MT instead of the standard 5 speed naturally aspirated 2.0L GDI engine.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:40 PM   #13
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I bought my 2013 Ti because I already have a 400hp SRT4 in the garage and wanted something with an auto to cruise around in.
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Old 09-16-2012, 11:02 PM   #14
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Obviously some one who valued luxury and toys over power and performance. Also the Ti is available with an automated manual transmission, the ST is only available with a traditional sliding gear manual and not everyone in the U.S. knows how to drive a manual car, nor do they seem willing to learn.

Of course I'd likely go for the ST over the Ti, but the base ST is essentially an SE with the body kit and turbocharged 2.0L GTDI engine and a 6MT instead of the standard 5 speed naturally aspirated 2.0L GDI engine.
I'm one of those more interested in fuel economy and some luxury than performance. I would not buy a focus for performance reasons, but of course performance is still key. However I would buy an ST over a Ti! if only the dealership would have had a slightly used 2013 ST then that's what I would have picked. It's bad enough they lied to me and told me ford isn't making a 6 speed manual (and my fault for not being up to date on my research). Already thinking about trading in my 2012 for one and I have only had it for 2 weeks...

BTW what is X plan and Plan A?

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Old 09-20-2012, 12:51 PM   #15
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Legally they have to show you the invoice if you're X Plan. I want to say there is a website that will show you the X plan price.

I'm curious is it an ordered unit you want to get or is it on their lot?

Just give where the vehicle is at or the first 2 and last 8 of the VIN and I can attempt to find out for you.

No this is a dealer ordered unit. 1F (first 2) DL129001 (Last 8).

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Old 09-20-2012, 12:58 PM   #16
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why would anybody buy a TI when an ST is cheaper?
Someone who doesn't want a car that looks like a Honda CR-Z. Only kidding! Granted the ST is nice I already own a modified 05 Mustang GT and she is fine the way she is. I love driving stick but living so close proximity to NYC, I am looking for something with a little better mileage and with all the little gadgets for comfort and not a HYBRID.
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I'm one of those more interested in fuel economy and some luxury than performance. I would not buy a focus for performance reasons, but of course performance is still key. However I would buy an ST over a Ti! if only the dealership would have had a slightly used 2013 ST then that's what I would have picked. It's bad enough they lied to me and told me ford isn't making a 6 speed manual (and my fault for not being up to date on my research). Already thinking about trading in my 2012 for one and I have only had it for 2 weeks...

BTW what is X plan and Plan A?
A-plan is the Ford employee pricing program (for employees and direct family members), Z-plan is the same price as A-plan but is for retirees and their familes. X is about 4% above a/z iirc or at least it was at the time I was looking to factory order a 2012 Focus. If I didn't order mine when I had done I might have waited for an ST, but it would cost a whole hell of a lot more money and I'd still have had to put even more money into my old car that was starting to feel quite tired by the time my Focus arrived.
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No this is a dealer ordered unit. 1F (first 2) DL129001 (Last 8).

Thanks Ira.
This one isn't showing on my dealer site. I found the one next to it DL129002.
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hope this helps

I'm purchasing a 2013 Ti on x-plan. MSRP 27370.00 x-plan 252002.00.
In my zip code I get a 1500 rebate and a 500 xplan incentive off.

The xplan is for Ford supplies emplyees. I work for a large Steel Mill to quaifly.
I should pick the car up Tuesday or Wednesday.

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