FSWerks Header? Buy it??

[db94_foci]

A lot of yall know me I come on and off the forums, but you pretty much know what's been modded to my focus. If you don't then click on my profile and look real quick so you can answer my follow up question.

I've had the Race Header from Fswerks on my wish list for a long time the thing that kinda, side tracked me was that I needed a tune for it. However, is the tune necessary to get it at the same time? Or even soon? The only problem I hear it causes is the o2 sensor light go off on the dashboard.. I can deal with that for a couple of months.

Anyways FSWERKS is giving a 20% off sale which is nearly -$100 off so instead of paying $410 w s/h + taxes I'd be paying $340 including everything. The normal price for the 4-1 race header is $379.99 so i'm getting a great deal.

http://www.focussport.com/headers.htm

Bad news is the deal ends tomorrow so I need to make a decision quick and is to why I'm asking yalls opinion, is header safe to be put in my car? Thats why I need you to look into my profile and see if it will interfere or cause problems with any of my current mods. P.S. Do I need to also get that "2.5 Flex joint & extension" they sell for an additional $89?

Thanks for the help in advance!

EDIT i added a pic to this post of my profile so yall dont have to go into my profile instead...

[Sponsor]

[Mile30]

If you have the loot to cover it today; get it! The tune will help rectify the air and fuel maps within ECU as well as turn that o2 issue off.

You don't have to tune it, but you'll hear a difference in EVERY car with exhaust upgrades once you hear what it does for your own... the tone changes very slightly and the sound of the exhaust sounds more in order that a system that's just got new pipes on it.

Saving a C-note is a pretty compelling reason to do this. Especially since it's already on the punch-list! Save a little money for some tuning; a little dust on the box ain't gonna kill you or the header: and it may motivate you to do side jobs to make the money that much faster!

[04ZX3]

Originally Posted by Mile30

If you have the loot to cover it today; get it! The tune will help rectify the air and fuel maps within ECU as well as turn that o2 issue off.

You don't have to tune it, but you'll hear a difference in EVERY car with exhaust upgrades once you hear what it does for your own... the tone changes very slightly and the sound of the exhaust sounds more in order that a system that's just got new pipes on it.

Saving a C-note is a pretty compelling reason to do this. Especially since it's already on the punch-list! Save a little money for some tuning; a little dust on the box ain't gonna kill you or the header: and it may motivate you to do side jobs to make the money that much faster!

^^^ I agree with this. If you have the cash now, buy the header and appropriate flex pipe and then save up for a tune. When my header was installed, I drove the car a mile back to my house to tune it and it ran like s#%$. I can't imagine running it like that for a month or two. But with the tune, the header is great. Definitely one of favorite mods to date

[db94_foci]

Originally Posted by Mile30

If you have the loot to cover it today; get it! The tune will help rectify the air and fuel maps within ECU as well as turn that o2 issue off.

You don't have to tune it, but you'll hear a difference in EVERY car with exhaust upgrades once you hear what it does for your own... the tone changes very slightly and the sound of the exhaust sounds more in order that a system that's just got new pipes on it.

Saving a C-note is a pretty compelling reason to do this. Especially since it's already on the punch-list! Save a little money for some tuning; a little dust on the box ain't gonna kill you or the header: and it may motivate you to do side jobs to make the money that much faster!

Well the money isn't a problem, I have a good job now so I can cover that payment in 2 weeks. But I have a couple of stacks I've been saving now just cause I'm not really buying much just paying off bills and what not but something that has always been looking at me in the eye got my attention with the sale. Just wanted to get some advice from my FSWerks fellas. And I agree I've had the FSWERKS exhaust for about 9 months now and I mean the tone sounds great and it sounds loud around 5000-6000 rpms but I always feel like something is missing..

One thing you didn't mention, is in regards the 2" flex pipe and extension, do I need to get that too? Thats almost an additional $100 :/

Originally Posted by 04ZX3

^^^ I agree with this. If you have the cash now, buy the header and appropriate flex pipe and then save up for a tune. When my header was installed, I drove the car a mile back to my house to tune it and it ran like s#%$. I can't imagine running it like that for a month or two. But with the tune, the header is great. Definitely one of favorite mods to date

Well I am only looking at the tuner from FSWERKS, maybe I can find a shop that tunes for cheaper? Mmmm? I mean I do have the money but I dont want to drop $800 cash and I'm trying to keep my credit low atm.. thats why I said but if I see that its a necesity I can definitely save for it and buy it within a couple of weeks. My concern is will it harm the engine at all if its not tuned properly?

[Black&Tan]

Pretty sure I saw a couple of these headers with a flex on the BST forums for cheap.

I'd go used and then you'd have most of the money for a tune with what you save.

[Mile30]

I got an OBX header for mine and just reused the stock flex pipe... that with a larger exhaust system and it's hella loud as it is!

Buy the thing while it's cheap, and sit on it until you feel your coffers are appropriately full... but do it right, man! Don't be that guy; you know... like that Honda-kid: rockin' an HKS fart can and unpainted body pieces!

[db94_foci]

Well heres what I'm gonna do.. I'll go ahead and get the header since its on sale and by time it gets here I'm gonna look around town to see if I find a shop that tunes headers. As far as the flex pipe goes I don't think I'm gonna get it, its an additional $100 and I'm already using the stock flex pipe on my 2'5 inch exhaust so I don't think its gonna make a difference now with the header on the other end. Hows that sound?

EDIT.. ERMM speaking with the guy from fswerks he really recommended and insited I get the flex pipe just so it doesnt choke some of the sound.. w.e he gave it to me half price for $50 so atleast ill have it all just need to get my tune when i get it here!! i'm excited thanks guys ill keep yall updated with the status.

[04ZX3]

Originally Posted by TritonX4

Well heres what I'm gonna do.. I'll go ahead and get the header since its on sale and by time it gets here I'm gonna look around town to see if I find a shop that tunes headers. As far as the flex pipe goes I don't think I'm gonna get it, its an additional $100 and I'm already using the stock flex pipe on my 2'5 inch exhaust so I don't think its gonna make a difference now with the header on the other end. Hows that sound?

The stock flex pipe is welded to the stock manifold. So unless you wanna cut it off and try to make it work then I suggest just buying their flex pipe. I know it's expensive but it's worth it. I think it will save you some headaches later on when you go to install it.

As far as harming your engine and the tune is concerned, the addition of a header I believe requires 10 to 15% more fuel over stock. Don't quote me on that though. It won't harm your motor as long as you don't try to beat up on it. For the tune, you could find a shop to tune it but I rather have someone tune it who has a lot of experience with our car and motors like Tom and Randy

[db94_foci]

Yeah I actually did go ahead and buy the Flex pipe cuz the seller gave me a good deal on it when I was checking out. And the if the header does require more fuel over stock it wont damage it if I still use 87 octane until I get it tuned? and what exactly do u mean by "try not to beat up on it" ??

[04ZX3]

Originally Posted by TritonX4

Yeah I actually did go ahead and buy the Flex pipe cuz the seller gave me a good deal on it when I was checking out. And the if the header does require more fuel over stock it wont damage it if I still use 87 octane until I get it tuned? and what exactly do u mean by "try not to beat up on it" ??

I don't think 87 octane will be problem but I'm not sure. When my header was installed, I was already tuned for 93 octane and then I just got the tune updated for the addition of the header. And by beating on it, I mean WOT pulls and mashing the throttle. If you install the header without a tune, I would take it easy until the tune. Tuning is everything when it comes to engine mods