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Old 09-17-2012, 02:52 PM   #1
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ST Spotting......

I was |..| that close to waiting for the ST to come out and before I plunked down the cash on my new Focus. I needed to make the deal happen and have the car in hand before class started, and even more so, wanted to have a few weeks of driving on it before that. I also wasn't sure I wanted to spend the $25k sticker price as compared to the $17k I gave for my 203A/SE model. $8k buys a lot of mods and a lot of miles in fuel at 30mpg.

I come out of class this afternoon, and whats parked right beside me?!?! A pretty BRAND NEW black ST. First time I've seen one in person, and I'm not sure who's driving it. There are only about 250 +/- students in my program, so I should be able to track him/her down somewhat easily. Had temp tags on the back, and a sticker from Carriage Ford in Clarksvile, IN. Had the MFT in the dash, and a moonroof, I'm not up on the option packages, but I think that's the top fo the line. What a nice looking car! I'm going to try to find the owner and see about a "personal test drive" :D :D....although I doubt he/she'll go for it. I'll get a picture tomorrow assuming the owner has Tuesday/Thursday classes.

Moral of the story....I'm starting to wonder if I should have waited?!?!


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Old 09-17-2012, 02:56 PM   #2
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I was |..| that close to waiting for the ST to come out and before I plunked down the cash on my new Focus. I needed to make the deal happen and have the car in hand before class started, and even more so, wanted to have a few weeks of driving on it before that. I also wasn't sure I wanted to spend the $25k sticker price as compared to the $17k I gave for my 203A/SE model. $8k buys a lot of mods and a lot of miles in fuel at 30mpg.

I come out of class this afternoon, and whats parked right beside me?!?! A pretty BRAND NEW black ST. First time I've seen one in person, and I'm not sure who's driving it. There are only about 250 +/- students in my program, so I should be able to track him/her down somewhat easily. Had temp tags on the back, and a sticker from Carriage Ford in Clarksvile, IN. Had the MFT in the dash, and a moonroof, I'm not up on the option packages, but I think that's the top fo the line. What a nice looking car! I'm going to try to find the owner and see about a "personal test drive" :D :D....although I doubt he/she'll go for it. I'll get a picture tomorrow assuming the owner has Tuesday/Thursday classes.

Moral of the story....I'm starting to wonder if I should have waited?!?!
Its maybe an ST2, definitely not the top of the line since there is an ST3 with HIDs, and full leather Recaro seats, not just the two tone cloth/ leather recaros.
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:15 PM   #3
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I saw an orange one on the way home from work. Looks so nice. Maybe in a few years....
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:51 PM   #4
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I agree the ST's are sweet but I am more than happy with my SE. Cheaper to insure, maintain and operate vs. the ST. The reason I would look at a more performance oriented car is for the, well...performance. Then everyone makes the jump to well you have an ST but you should of gotten a Mustang with that oh so sweet 5.0. Now we got a can of worms opened up to which I say if you want performance and MPG then get a 2 wheeler. Liter bike fast is bliss.
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I agree the ST's are sweet but I am more than happy with my SE. Cheaper to insure, maintain and operate vs. the ST. The reason I would look at a more performance oriented car is for the, well...performance. Then everyone makes the jump to well you have an ST but you should of gotten a Mustang with that oh so sweet 5.0. Now we got a can of worms opened up to which I say if you want performance and MPG then get a 2 wheeler. Liter bike fast is bliss.
Yeah but even it I would have spent a few grand more for a base stang I wouldn't have. The
New mustang coming out next Yeah looks too promising.
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:32 PM   #8
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I agree the ST's are sweet but I am more than happy with my SE. Cheaper to insure, maintain and operate vs. the ST. The reason I would look at a more performance oriented car is for the, well...performance. Then everyone makes the jump to well you have an ST but you should of gotten a Mustang with that oh so sweet 5.0. Now we got a can of worms opened up to which I say if you want performance and MPG then get a 2 wheeler. Liter bike fast is bliss.
There's some good points here... but there's a trade off.

I doubt the SE is THAT much cheaper to insure. Of course it's going to get a bit better mileage but the ST is still a 30mpg car when you do a lot of highway driving.

Comparing it to a Mustang, or suggesting that someone who buys an ST should have got a 5.0 is just silly. My wife has a 2011 5.0. I wouldn't even THINK about driving it in the winter. We have a truck that she drives in the winter and we put the Mustang away. Plus she only drives about 25 miles per day.

Me on the other hand, I drive 120 miles/day. An ST is PERFECT for me. I can drive it year around, it will be an amazing daily driver. Decent mileage and fairly cheap insurance. Amazing seats, comfort, and great visibility (Also absent in the Mustang). We recently took my 2003 SVT Focus on a 2500 mile trip because I didn't want to deal with the poor visibility in our Mustang (nor did we want to put the miles on it).

Suggesting someone get a crotch rocket instead of an ST? I don't think I have to even go there. A car like the ST is a great choice for a large number of people that drive a lot, want something sporty, and can maybe only have one car.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:18 AM   #9
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I might have to go test drive one, you know, for comparison purposes :D :D

The sticker price on mine was $21,699 I think. Sticker on the ST2's are in the $25,500 range. I bought on A-Plan, which got me a $17,015 purchase price. No idea what the A-Plan sticker price, or if the dealerships locally would have even let an ST go on an A-Plan sale. So, Assuming there is a $8k difference between what I paid for my '12 203A SE, and a '13 ST2, thats about 68k miles of fuel at 30mpg, and $3.50/gal.

With that said, it's still a sharp looking car, and I bet a ton a fun to drive. I do about 1,800 miles a month which isn't terrible, but it's a good deal of time in the car. The extra power from the ST would be appreciated and used on some of the short entrance ramps I traverse daily. The power is about the only thing I miss from driving our '06 Audi on a daily basis. The 2.0T from the Audi just seems to have "torque everywhere" as compared to the NA 2.0 in the Focus that needs it's revs to make power. I'm betting the ST is more like the Audi in that regard.

I am a little curious how I'll do this winter with bad weather. This is the first time in 15 years I haven't owned a 4WD or AWD vehicle for every driver in the house! Wife gets the Quattro equipped Audi, I get to learn to drive a FWD car in the snow. Luckily the worst snow we've had in the last 2-3yrs has been only a few inches, and was gone by the evening commute home.

ANYWAY.....Back on subject here.....I'll try to snap a picture this afternoon if it's there. I'm guessing it to be a students car, but there are a few businesses on campus as well, so it might be an employee's.
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I'm getting mine on Z-plan (same as A-plan) for what it's worth. And of course you can't justify getting an ST on economy alone.

If you can (and want to) afford it, it's a nice sporty middle of the road car that has decent fuel economy. I wouldn't get a Mustang for myself because I want to drive the car year around. In my opinion, anything else that will be this much fun would cost much more (aside from a MS3 or something). Other options in the price range would be a WRX (All wheel drive would be nice, but 25 or less mpg highway would not, and I think you're talking more initial cost than an ST anyway). What else compares for the price?
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