DCT Complaints Thread

[jdetzel]

Originally Posted by BetaDnB

Why would I complain about my DCT? I don't have one. See sig? I made this thread for those of you with problems. Must I have a DCT to make such a thread? Ok, a few have posted their complaints... a very few. Why are you getting all defensive?

Do you want me to answer here or would you like to stat a new thread?

[BetaDnB]

Originally Posted by jdetzel

Do you want me to answer here or would you like to stat a new thread?

Not sure what your issue is here with me. Care to PM me your problems?

[Kaaru]

You want complaints ? Ok.

Let me then be more specific:

Here are my DCT complaints: (You asked for it)

#1 Lack of power when accelerating:
IE: You try to overtake a car on the highway, or you try to merge on the highway.
Symptoms: High revving, clutch slipping, engine making a lot of noise and absence of real crisp acceleration

#2 Lack of power comming out of a left or right turn.
IE: You get to a green light and you take the 90 degree turn in motion and comming out of the turn, you dont get any power back when you press on hte gaz pedal.
Symptoms: You get the same symptoms as #1

#3 Lack of power while in motion
IE: While in motion at 40 Kph when you press the gaz pedal to accelerate in a straight line, the car bogs and nearly backfires
Symptoms: It varies from all the symtoms described in trouble #1 and I can swear the this is about to backfire 'cause it bogs so much

#4 traction controls kicks in too easily
IE: In winter conditions because of situation 1, 2 and 3, you end up pressing the gaz pedal too much, thus making the wheel spinning (when the tranny finnaly wakes up) and engaging the traction control. This situation causes you car to be very difficult to lauch from a dead stop in winter traffic conditions or on any slippery surface.

Voilà.

[BetaDnB]

Originally Posted by Kaaru

You want complaints ? Ok.

Let me then be more specific:

Here are my DCT complaints: (You asked for it)

#1 Lack of power when accelerating: IE: You try to overtake a car on the highway, or you try to merge on the highway.
symptoms: High revving, clutch slipping, engine making a lot of noise and absence of real crisip acceleration

#2 Lack of power comming out of a left or right turn.IE: You get to a green light and you take the 90 degree turn in motion and comming out of the turn, you dont get any power back when you press on hte gaz pedal. Symptoms: You get the same symptoms as #1

#3 Lack of power while in motion
IE: While in motion at 40 Kph when you press the gaz pedal to accelerate in a straight line, the car bogs and nearly backfires

#4 traction controls kick in too easily
IE: In winter conditions because of situation 1, 2 and 3, you endup pressing the gaz pedal too much, thus making the wheel spinning (when the tranny finnaly wakes up) and engaging the traction control. This situation causes you car to be very difficult to lauch from a dead stop in winter traffic conditions or on any slippery surface.

Voilà.

This is what I'm talking about! As far as #s 1 & 2 it sounds like you have the same problem as most with the transmission/you having the transmission getting to a lower, more optimal gear. #3...I don't know. #4...don't feel so bad. It's not much different with the manual transmission. The best cure would be narrower winter tires.

Thanks for posting that!

[jdetzel]

Way to go Kaaru! You have BetaDnB approval! I know you will sleep easier tonight.

[pozi240]

Originally Posted by BetaDnB

Why would I complain about my DCT? I don't have one. See sig? I made this thread for those of you with problems. Must I have a DCT to make such a thread? Ok, a few have posted their complaints... a very few. Why are you getting all defensive?

Come on now Beta, you should have almost expected a reply like that (not the condescending part, I don't think you were anyway), but, when you claimed that no one actually posted a DCT specific complaint (which in fact, there were a few anyway, LOL) and then end with "..I tried" , it did come across as at least a little bit "smug"... I know, that was not your intention, but, you can at least concede that it could easily be interpreted that way... bygones. LOL

[BetaDnB]

Originally Posted by pozi240

Come on now Beta, you should have almost expected a reply like that (not the condescending part, I don't think you were anyway), but, when you claimed that no one actually posted a DCT specific complaint (which in fact, there were a few anyway, LOL) and then end with "..I tried" , it did come across as at least a little bit "smug"... I know, that was not your intention, but, you can at least concede that it could easily be interpreted that way... bygones. LOL

I'll agree. The statement was more based on the other statistics I posted, on a comparative level. It seems somebody has some deeper, unknown issues with me though. For what reason?

[jdetzel]

Originally Posted by BetaDnB

I'll agree. The statement was more based on the other statistics I posted, on a comparative level. It seems somebody has some deeper, unknown issues with me though. For what reason?

No, no pm lets keep it public. I think maybe it is the avatar - that is really you isn't it.
Kidding - don't answer. I'll drop it. No more remarks.

[BetaDnB]

Originally Posted by jdetzel

No, no pm lets keep it public. I think maybe it is the avatar - that is really you isn't it.
Kidding - don't answer. I'll drop it. No more remarks.

What of it? I had been driving fast Ace Ventura style. I kid as well.

[gambit293]

Originally Posted by Kaaru

#1 Lack of power when accelerating: IE: You try to overtake a car on the highway, or you try to merge on the highway.
symptoms: High revving, clutch slipping, engine making a lot of noise and absence of real crisip acceleration

#2 Lack of power comming out of a left or right turn.IE: You get to a green light and you take the 90 degree turn in motion and comming out of the turn, you dont get any power back when you press on hte gaz pedal. Symptoms: You get the same symptoms as #1

Well, I guess this sort of gets to the heart of figuring out exactly what we're talking about, but the problem of upshifting too soon isn't really a DCT issue per se, right? You could just as well have an ordinary automatic that upshifts aggresively. It's purely a matter of tranny programming. I'd imagine you'll see very similar complaints on other car boards, given all the emphasis on fuel mileage over the past decade. But either way, I guess you can blame Ford for it.

Your other problems, however, really are concerning, because they are relevant to the exact features that a DCT is supposed to provide: clean and efficient shifts with the power delivery comparable to a manual. And the high revving is also bizarre, given your note about the failure to hold gears.

PS: Oh yea, btw, BetaDnB. I got that vibe too. I guess you could have made it more explicit by throwing in a *sigh* or two or maybe an *eye roll*. But anyway, discussion here has been good so far.