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Old 09-12-2012, 05:53 PM   #41
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State of the art racing machine........that's funny.
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If you have nothing intelligent to say its best that you keep your mouth sealed, rather than to open it and remove all doubt.
Eh, let him talk...it's better then what's on TV.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:30 PM   #43
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Thanks guys and also to the others who sent me privates messages.Fun to see that many appreciate my brand of humor.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:39 PM   #44
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I find it hard to believe that anyone (with very few exceptions) chooses a manual or automatic based on MPGs (assuming that the numbers are reasonably close).
The auto was like a $1000+ option on my car. Gas would have rise to $6-$7/gal over the lifetime of the vehicle to recover that cost.
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The auto was like a $1000+ option on my car. Gas would have rise to $6-$7/gal over the lifetime of the vehicle to recover that cost.
On paper yes,but in reality it's not quite as simple.Ford has made the manual transmission very rare,so the dealerships are stuck with many DCT Focus in their yards and most of the time will sell them for the same price as a manual and sometimes even cheaper.And if you decide to order the manual ,you won't save a dime,buying it.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:11 PM   #46
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On paper yes,but in reality it's not quite as simple.Ford has made the manual transmission very rare,so the dealerships are stuck with many DCT Focus in their yards and most of the time will sell them for the same price as a manual and sometimes even cheaper.And if you decide to order the manual ,you won't save a dime,buying it.
My point still stands. There isn't a strong economic carrot favoring the fuel efficiency of the auto over the manual.
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My point still stands. There isn't a strong economic carrot favoring the fuel efficiency of the auto over the manual.
The fuel efficiency will be dictated by your driving habits.having a manual or DCT won't do much difference.The manual will provide you peace of mind,better performance and fun to drive.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:45 PM   #48
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The fuel efficiency will be dictated by your driving habits.having a manual or DCT won't do much difference.The manual will provide you peace of mind,better performance and fun to drive.
Better performance is debatable.
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:48 PM   #49
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I don't miss my 6MTs one bit... they both still revved 3k RPM at 110 km/h, same as the Focus... just more shifting.

I'd be happy to have a 6MT that was precisely the 5MT +1 gear... Heck, even the Ecoboost 1.0 i3 6MT doesn't reach 3k RPM until ~140 km/h.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:19 AM   #50
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Better performance is debatable.
I owned a 2012 Focus and two DCT transmissions.The first tranny was smooth, but even in sport mode it was far from performance made.When the dealership replaced it(God knows why),the second transmission was worst.It was shuttering often and in sport mode it would operate erratically by downshifting for nothing and falling into neutral while driving in the city.
So,do I think my driving skills with a manual transmission is better than the Powershift?After driving two identical transmissions operating totally differently.The Answer is YES.

Like I said previously,I now own a 2012 Elantra with a 6 speed manual.Even if the engine is smaller ,it's easier the exploit the performance through a manual transmission.
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