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Old 09-08-2012, 02:34 PM   #111
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FYI you jump pretty fast to conclusion IDIOT. Yes I use the word automatic since it's shifting automatically. DCT is nothing new. I did work on DCT while at university for SAE Formula competition if you know what this is, which I doubt. I agree with you that DCT cannot be as smooth as automatic ttransmission since it doesn't have any torque converter but For Your Information good DCT design are suppose to shift more quickly and more smoothly, at least, than with a single-clutch. Which is not the case of the FOCUS. I recommend you go to BMW and make a road test with their DCT and you will feel the difference. If the focus didn't learn how someones drive after 45000KM, it will never adapt. What about the increasing noise it makes? Next time don't loose people time instead jumping to IDIOT conclusion.
Well not duh you genius, the Focus DCT will NEVER be as hardcore as BMW DCTs because BMW can program their DCT to be as agressive as it needs to be.

And for the record, BMW DCTs also shift as 'slowly' as our Focii in regular modes. In sport modes those times drop.

We don't have a sport mode. Not one on the likes of what BMW gives their cars with the DCT.

I'm not sure what you added to the discussion...you spent a lot of time saying nothing at all
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:22 PM   #112
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Since I'm getting fed up with idiots who don't know what the DCT is...

YOU'RE AN IDIOT.

It is two manual transmissions being shifted by a computer. Still acts like a manual, just no clutch pedal.

No torque converter means no parasitic suck that all autos have, this won't be as smooth.

Go ahead an buy Japanese. The only car remotely competitive with the Focus, Cruze and Dart is the Mazda 3 but hey, don't let me tell you that the Mazda 3 is just a cast off previous generation Ford focus platform employing car. If you like paying for 5 year old tech go ahead.

There is a good reason the Japanese are losing in comparison tests. Hell, the 3 domestics get more comparison time against each other than they do with the Japanese. Car and Driver put the Fpcus ahead of the Dart, Inside Line did the same against the Cruze when the car launched.

Unless you like paying for so called Japanese engineering. Japanese engineering gets me crap interiors, crap design and crap value. All new cars so warranty and resale value mean nothing, I don't buy cars thinking ill be selling in 5 years I buy them based off what's the best value and for any scenario the Focus keeps winning.

Sorry you've had "issues" but the Focus is still 10 times the car that anything from Japan can muster.
Wow, I love my focus, but you come off as a total fanboy. I haven't had any major issues with my focus at 16k miles, and I hope that it doesn't for the next 5-7 years that I plan to own it, but its long term reliability is entirely unproven.

I don't see myself ever owning a civic or corolla in their current forms, but I can understand why people buy them - they are very reliable, if totally boring cars. For some people, having a reliable appliance is all they need, so no need to hate.

To answer the original question, I think ford will try to do right by the focus. Ford has too much at stake for people to be questioning the reliability of one of their best-selling and most well-known vehicles. Ford does not want to go back to the days of "Fix Or Repair Daily."
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:39 PM   #113
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Old 09-08-2012, 05:26 PM   #114
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Wow, I love my focus, but you come off as a total fanboy. I haven't had any major issues with my focus at 16k miles, and I hope that it doesn't for the next 5-7 years that I plan to own it, but its long term reliability is entirely unproven.

I don't see myself ever owning a civic or corolla in their current forms, but I can understand why people buy them - they are very reliable, if totally boring cars. For some people, having a reliable appliance is all they need, so no need to hate.

To answer the original question, I think ford will try to do right by the focus. Ford has too much at stake for people to be questioning the reliability of one of their best-selling and most well-known vehicles. Ford does not want to go back to the days of "Fix Or Repair Daily."
Fanboy? No.

I just spend a few months gauging where to throw my money, so sue me if the Focus has earned it better than the other cars on the market.

I don't think Ford was ever fix or repair daily, but hey, I'm not part of the group that spreads FUD about brands.

By that logic, I also wouldn't recommend VWs, Land Rovers, Jaguars, BMWs Mercs or Audis if I was really scared of repairing.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:28 PM   #115
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...which so far has only been commercially available in cars the caliber of Lamborghinis and Ferraris.

Better? ;-)
Nope. Not at all since that's still incredibly wrong.

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Lambo itself has a ISR system, it's double clutch essentially
Except, you know, without the double clutches.

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And in our segment guess which cars offer it? The Focus and the Veloster.
Plus the other ones we apparently aren't going to mention. But that's cool.

Anyways, good luck with your arguments everybody. I'm sure someone will take over for me. I have better things I need to do at the moment.

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For others (like me) who wondered what "APIM" stands for:Accessory Protocol Interface Module
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I've had my 2012 Focus Ti HB since they first come out, August 2011. Never experienced any problems with the DCT until recently (56k miles). I've taken it in twice for adjustments and those worked for a few months then it reverted back to the lurching and shuttering. Just glad Ford extended the warranties on this piece because I will definitely be at the shop the minute it hits 69k miles.

As for MFT, love it, love it, love it. Sure it had it's glitches early on, but subsequent updates have made it reliable and easy to live with. Have two friends who have high-end Cadillacs and their systems pale in comparison to my little Focus. Like comparing Nintendo to a PS4. May stay with Ford forever just for their MFT system.
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I recommend you go to BMW and make a road test with their DCT and you will feel the difference.
Since you have worked on dual clutch transmissions, what is the difference between the BMW's dual clutch and the 6DCT250 used in the Fiesta and Focus?

A little off topic but did you know that the new-generation Minis and future BMWs with front-wheel drive will all use automatic transmissions from Aisin AW, not dual clutch transmissions.

I believe BMW first offered a dual clutch automated transmission in MY2011
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