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Old 09-06-2012, 07:08 PM   #21
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U dont have to sell ur car if i dont want to...if i dont then they won't let me run the next race.all the cars that make it to tech shead have alot more than that in there cars too.so far they haven't had anyone put up a fuss or try to pull anyone or buy them out yet.u can't win with a stock carout there.im going to Anderson speedway tomorrow night to race.i haven't raced that track yet
So basically it's a "stock" class where everyone cheats and no one is stock?

Wow.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:09 PM   #22
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It isnt cheating till you get cought , the rules are there as a guide line to all the things they dont talk about

I have been on both sides of this with being a Tech guy and reading the rules and building the cars

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Old 09-06-2012, 09:29 PM   #23
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It isnt cheating till you get cought , the rules are there as a guide line to all the things they dont talk about

I have been on both sides of this with being a Tech guy and reading the rules and building the cars

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Heh. Sounds a lot like steroids and performance enhancing drugs in sports.

In that case I say go with all the svt bolt-on stuff in addition to the cams and shaving the head down. It will all look bone stock to the untrained eye.
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:42 AM   #24
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15s and low profile tires will help you gear you down further for better acceleration
Wait...wait..wait...(sorry for a mini TJ)

This is new information to me. Lightweight wheels makes perfect sense to me ---but how does a smaller diameter do anything but aid in cornering?
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The smaller diameter of the wheels helps in extending speed in lower gears. To use an example. This is what a friend found back a couple years ago. He used to race his SVT at the track.
With the stock size 17's he would have to shift out of 4th towards the end of the track because he was no longer gaining any more speed out of the run for a short period before the end of the 1/4mile.
By switching to 15's drag wheels he was able to stay in 4th to the end without loosing any power.
It has been awhile and I do not know the specifics off the top of my head but it all has to do with the diameter in which wheel has to cover to make a complete rotation.
I am sure someone will post a better example/definition.
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the 15s have a smaller circumference and less weight. tire circumference, final drive, and gear ratio all play into acceleration. Since changing gear ratios is expensive and time consuming (or not possible with the getrag in the SVT, swapping to 15s is easier and relatively cheap. SVTs that autocross frequently do this because 1, 2, and 3 are all tall gears, and having the 15s helps get better times.

in the turbo car world, people tend to put not only wider (for traction) but taller wheels/tires on to make a larger circumference, effectively making the gearing longer, meaning I can now get up to 40 instead of 35 in 1st (not a real example, just throwing numbers out).
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the 15s have a smaller circumference and less weight. tire circumference, final drive, and gear ratio all play into acceleration. Since changing gear ratios is expensive and time consuming (or not possible with the getrag in the SVT, swapping to 15s is easier and relatively cheap. SVTs that autocross frequently do this because 1, 2, and 3 are all tall gears, and having the 15s helps get better times.

in the turbo car world, people tend to put not only wider (for traction) but taller wheels/tires on to make a larger circumference, effectively making the gearing longer, meaning I can now get up to 40 instead of 35 in 1st (not a real example, just throwing numbers out).
I completely failed to think about the effects of tire size on gear stepping. Thanks!



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Old 09-10-2012, 07:32 PM   #28
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You should be much higher power then that I would think , On the Caterham guys I do the engines and tuning for at 10.8 to 11.2 compression with ITB , stg2 cams were making mid 182-186 HP
The ones ITB with 12.5 are at the 195 to 200 mark , why are you at 190 with 13.5 ?

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