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Old 08-31-2012, 11:01 AM   #11
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Not sure if your referring to the DCT's Manual mode or that I should have bought a 5 speed.

@AZFocus - The drive cycle is some crazy convuluted procedure that I guess Ford came up with to throughly set the DCT for optimal shifting. I guess exposing it to every situation but you'd almost need a closed test track to do it. It has you doing 0 to 20, hard braking, slow take offs, hard takes offs, Putting the car in park to drive a dozen times. Its just insane if you ask me. Im sure you can find the procedure on this site somewhere. Aside from doing one Wide Open Throttle beat down after I did the 10min Battery disconnect. Ive been driving normally.

Its still doing great!. I've been watching my shift points lately and a moderate (not wide open) acceleration my shifts are occurring just over 4k RPM, where as before they were around 2500 to 3k.

Its feeling a lot like the Programming prior to 12B37 IMHO.

The adaptive drive cycle is a little odd:
1. Press brake
2. Shift to drive
3. Wait 15 seconds
4. Shift to reverse
5. Wait 2 seconds
6. Repeat 1-5 10 times
7. Accelerate under litle throttle to 15 mph
8. Brake gently (6 seconds) to a stop
9. Repeat 7-8 5 times
10. Accelerate under light throtle through 4 th gear keeping revs between 1700-2000 RPMs
11. Accelerate to between 50 and 65 mph keepling revs under 3000. Hold speed on level ground for 2 minutes
12. Repeat 11 2 times

Whatever it does I guess it's important. Given the physical location of most dealers I doubt that road conditions allow the drive cycle to be completed properly. I wonder how many dealers even try.
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:59 AM   #12
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Given the physical location of most dealers I doubt that road conditions allow the drive cycle to be completed properly. I wonder how many dealers even try.
I know mine did not. When I picked the car up the shift action was horrendous.
If I had not read all the stuff on the forum, I would have immediately returned the car. I may do the battery disconnect and "drive cycle" and see how it goes from there.
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:43 PM   #13
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Oh, crumbs. I just don't trust myself to try this out.

I wish I could though, because I've been so-o-o-o-o frustrated with the horrendous shifting . . . and especially while doing a 90 degree turn and up an incline. It's just outrageous!

Do you think my local dealer would at least do the work under the hood for me? Then I could take it to some empty parking lot and try putting it through its paces there.
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If you do anything, and I mean anything to the driveline of this car, then do the battery disconnect procedure. It will save you lots of headaches.

And come on folks, it's one bolt (negative terminal) located just to the right of the battery box on the fender well. Pull the bolt out, leave it disconnected for 20 mins then just reconnect it (10 according to everyone else, but I always double things). It will default your ECM/TCM and allow it to relearn the driving and shifting patterns that suit your style.

My June 2011 build Ti (17K miles) has the latest ECM/TCM update, with a K&N drop in filter. It runs better and more smoothly today than when I drove it home from the dealership the first time. In addition, I picked up almost 1.5 MPG in fuel economy on the last update and default procedure. I never trust a dealer mechanic to have done this, so I do it myself after any work is done on my car(s). It's a free tune-up folks.
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Old 08-31-2012, 02:44 PM   #15
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Just to add to what Underbird said. I popped the plastic cover off the battery. Its not bolted down or anything. Just lifts right off. Theres a small 10mm nut facing UP that clamps the terminal to the battery's 12volt Positive side. I didn't even think to do that with the Neg. but As Underbird said, you can easily do it right there.

Anyhow either way you go about it. Its SOOOOOOOO Easy and for me the results have been a tremendous noticeable improvement. Night and day!.
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Old 08-31-2012, 02:48 PM   #16
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I've done this, before I read this post, and I experienced the same behavior. HOWEVER, my car always seems to revert to the poor shifting. Once I disconnect the battery, the car is fine for about a month or so, and then it's back to like it was before the battery pull.

I wish there was a way to disable this adaptive learning, and just program in shift points. The way my transmission performs, it's like a teenager learning how to drive a stick shift, literally.
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Old 08-31-2012, 02:51 PM   #17
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I've done this, before I read this post, and I experienced the same behavior. HOWEVER, my car always seems to revert to the poor shifting. Once I disconnect the battery, the car is fine for about a month or so, and then it's back to like it was before the battery pull.

I wish there was a way to disable this adaptive learning, and just program in shift points. The way my transmission performs, it's like a teenager learning how to drive a stick shift, literally.
I assume thats with the 12B37 update as well? If so that's discouraging and would indicate the adaptive learning is a huge Fail!. Maybe there's a way to disable that.
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...Well I know there's been a lot of threads on the topic of the 12b37 update and I happened to catch where one person said something about having disconnected the positive battery cable for 10 mins and forced the car back into the adaptive learning mode. I didn't like the idea of having to lose all my settings and just never really put much weight into thinking that would ever work anyway.

Well about a week ago I was tinkering under the hood and decided what the hell and disconnected my battery. I purposely waited this long to make sure this wasn't a fluke but ever since doing that the DCT has been acting WAY different. It holds the gears longer when I want it to (while accelerating normally) and doesn't seem to try and immediately lug the motor...

...overall a remarkably drastic improvement for me.
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I may give this a shot, thanks for sharing!
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humm, ...I may try this aswell too...before I drop a K&N filter in. Thanks for sharing.
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I may have to try this. I did the series of hard accelerations in both "D" and "S" and it made a dramatic improvement in the parking lot speed functionality and some improvements in general shifting...
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I hate this update for a slightly different reason... I CAN'T STAND THE BRAKE PEDAL FEEL WITH SLIGHT MODULATION IN TRAFFIC!
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...I've been so-o-o-o-o frustrated with the horrendous shifting . . . and especially while doing a 90 degree turn and up an incline. It's just outrageous!

Do you think my local dealer would at least do the work under the hood for me? Then I could take it to some empty parking lot and try putting it through its paces there.
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Interesting. Did you perform the Ford "drive cycle" after reconnecting the battery or just drive normally?
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The adaptive drive cycle is a little odd:
1. Press brake
2. Shift to drive
3. Wait 15 seconds
4. Shift to reverse
5. Wait 2 seconds
6. Repeat 1-5 10 times
7. Accelerate under litle throttle to 15 mph
8. Brake gently (6 seconds) to a stop
9. Repeat 7-8 5 times
10. Accelerate under light throtle through 4 th gear keeping revs between 1700-2000 RPMs
11. Accelerate to between 50 and 65 mph keepling revs under 3000. Hold speed on level ground for 2 minutes
12. Repeat 11 2 times

...Given the physical location of most dealers I doubt that road conditions allow the drive cycle to be completed properly. I wonder how many dealers even try.
Hey everyone -

If you've had the 12B37 program completed on your transmission and are still experiencing issues, please PM me your VIN, mileage, phone number, and dealer name; I'll escalate this with the Customer Service Manager of your regions. If you've worked with a CSM before, I'll document it for our engineering rep.

Where did you obtain this drive cycle, dan50?

Have a great Labor Day weekend,

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What is a K&N drop in filter?

[Please forgive the ignorance and timidity here, folks. This 63-yr-old woman has done nothing more under the hood than check the oil, add coolant, or jump start my previous car.]
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What is a K&N drop in filter?

[Please forgive the ignorance and timidity here, folks. This 63-yr-old woman has done nothing more under the hood than check the oil, add coolant, or jump start my previous car.]
K&N makes a replacement air filter for the engine that just "drops" into the standard air filter housing and replaces the paper element filter with one made of cloth. It allows for better air flow without the expense of changing the entire air intake system and is reuseable, cleanable, and can be re-oiled to last the life time of the vehicle rather than replacing the paper one every 12-20k miles.

http://www.amazon.com/E-2993-Round-P...1&s=automotive

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