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Old 08-27-2012, 02:07 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by InfinityCubed View Post
I realize I'm in the minority here, but I would not suggest purchasing one unless you like to take risks.
Based on what I've seen in many different forums, there isn't a single car out there that wouldn't be a risk to think about buying.

As for the Focus, risk can be reduced by getting a manual, no sunroof, and no MFT.

For me, once MFT was updated, all complaint's were resolved. Out of every 4cyl + automatic I've driven, the DCT in the Focus has been the least annoying. I always imagine to myself that the people complaining about the DCT have always driven 4cyl manuals or bigger engines with automatics (like 2.5L or bigger), in which case I can imagine the DCT would be very annoying. Try a mid-90's Mitsubishi Eclipse GST or GSX with an auto and you'll never complain about another automatic again...that thing would randomly start from a stop sign in 3rd gear and sometimes take 5+ seconds to shift down.
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:09 PM   #22
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It is a sharp looking car, The dct has been rock solid for me after I got the first tsb it fixed 99% of the problems.

Mft is substantially better after the new update, and to be honest most of the complaints before were complaints about how inconvenient it was to pull the power fuse for the infotainment system when it froze or crashed.

A lot of other companies with infotainment system's are having similar issue's.

That and this car love's my k&n drop in a bit too much.
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:18 PM   #23
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I have a lot of issues, but I do not think they represent the majority rather they represent the minority. I would find one you like and ask the dealer to take an extended test drive. Perhaps an entire weekend. I have done this before and really wished I had done it this time. I would have noticed issues the first day that would have been a red flag. I think a couple days should tell you if the car you chose is plagued with problems or not. I have driven 5 other Focuses and not one exhibits the same DCT problems that mine does. So do not be scared, but informed and prepared. Overall I think the Focus could be a real winner, but every first year car has problems and I should have held off a little longer.

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Old 08-27-2012, 02:53 PM   #24
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I've got 2000kms on mine so far and love it. the DCT smoothed out amazingly... it's definitely not like an auto, but I came from a manual and I love it.

I have MFT and aside from the clock time changing twice and my phone needing a re-pair once it's been fine. sure there are some bugs but I'm hopeful they'll be worked out eventually and even with the little bugs it's a highly usable system.

my only dissapointment is my city mileage isn't all that stellar (9-10L/100kms) but if i wanted amazing stop and go performance I would have gotten a hybrid anyway. Plus I drive it to enjoy it which means throwing my foot down heavy from time to time.

as others said, try one out for a full day or two if you can.
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:24 PM   #25
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To the OP,

May we ask what kind of usage you will be doing ? What kind of traffic will you do ? Rush hour trafic ? short commutes ?

I noticed you are from BC. What kind of winter conditions do you get on your end of the country ? I'm from the east coast (well, kinf of) and some winter conditions can be a source of irritation depending on your usage.
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:31 PM   #26
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bozo089, do yourself a huge favor. Go to Hertz or Budget and rent a 2012 Focus for 2 or 3 days. Take it out on your normal routine. If you go to work, drive it to work. If you have to go to the store, take it to the store. I've done this with the last 2 vehicles I've bought, and it's really helped me weed out the ones that I like vs. the ones I don't. If you're going to plop down tens of thousands of dollars on a car, a couple hundred to know if you like it beforehand is money well spent. Every car will have one quirk or another. Only you'll know if a specific quirk does or doesn't bother you.

A 10 minute test drive with a (potential) overly talkative sales person isn't going to give you a good feel for a car - period.

As for reliability, overall my ride has been fine. The DCT was much improved since the software update. I found out the hard way not to take it through an automatic car wash with brush rollers (took the plastic rain channel cover right off). The dealer replaced it under my initial 3yr/36000 mile warranty. Too bad my salesperson didn't tell me I needed to use the touch less car washes. Other than that, I have 12500 miles on it, one oil change, and gas - that's it. It's the nicest riding, smoothest handling, and quietest compact car I've ever had.
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:46 PM   #27
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I have had mine for 5 months and have 5100 miles on it. I had had zero problems and really enjoy how it drives. Went from an 03 Sonata and about 21 mpg to 32 mpg on a car that's a lot more fun to drive. Once I had the software update there have been no issues with the DCT. He fit and finish have been perfect on my car. Would definitely buy it again.
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:49 PM   #28
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the issues generally were with the earlier build dates. the newer ones are pretty much problem free. go for it and you won't regret it.
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:07 PM   #29
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oh and I'll add my build date was June 19th 2012.
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:15 PM   #30
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DON'T Wait until next year. Far too many problems now.
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