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Old 08-09-2012, 10:09 AM   #11
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I wonder how the real world mpg will stack up
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:10 AM   #12
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And to all those begging for a Focus wagon, here it is.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:20 AM   #13
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And to all those begging for a Focus wagon, here it is.
Kinda. Its only 2 inches longer than the Focus hatch, but the roof is a foot taller. You are right that the C-Max and Escape are for all intents and purposes, the US Focus wagons. Queue the, "I want a diesel manual Focus wagon" talk...
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:27 AM   #14
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Queue the, "I want a diesel manual Focus wagon" talk...
I'd rather cue the "I want a Focus wagon ST" talk. I suppose that would be off-topic in a hybrid discussion, though.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:36 AM   #15
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The issues I have with the C-Max are as follows:
1. No standard powertrain variant in North America, hybrids only here where as in the rest of the world its available with a series of various power trains (gas/ diesel, manual and automatic transmissions)

2. It feels like a taller and more top heavy Focus, much like the Escape in fact, only slightly lower to the ground. Ergo it has more body roll and lean to it than a Focus.

3. The Atkinson cycle engine while delivering good fuel economy tended to not sound great with the windows down, particularly combined with the single speed planetary automatic gearbox emulating a CVT and blending in power from the gas engine and electric motors. It did pull nicely and was decently quick for what it was though. It will drive better than a Prius.

4. Both the C-Max and the Escape are not a good substitute for the Focus Wagon. The Focus wagon had more cargo volume than the previous Kuga which the current Escape is also based upon as the Kuga is the crossover version of the Focus, and the C-Max the passenger van, The Grand C-Max closer to that of the Mazda 5 however.

But over all its still better than its direct competition, but don't expect me to run out and order one right away. I did have the chance to test drive one for an event held by Ford however and it was interesting. I still would prefer the Focus wagon however. 2.0L I4 powershift GDI or EcoBoost ST 6MT guise please.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:42 AM   #16
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The issues I have with the C-Max are as follows:
1. No standard powertrain variant in North America, hybrids only here where as in the rest of the world its available with a series of various power trains (gas/ diesel, manual and automatic transmissions)

2. It feels like a taller and more top heavy Focus, much like the Escape in fact, only slightly lower to the ground. Ergo it has more body roll and lean to it than a Focus.

3. The Atkinson cycle engine while delivering good fuel economy tended to not sound great with the windows down, particularly combined with the single speed planetary automatic gearbox emulating a CVT and blending in power from the gas engine and electric motors. It did pull nicely and was decently quick for what it was though. It will drive better than a Prius.

4. Both the C-Max and the Escape are not a good substitute for the Focus Wagon. The Focus wagon had more cargo volume than the previous Kuga which the current Escape is also based upon as the Kuga is the crossover version of the Focus, and the C-Max the passenger van, The Grand C-Max closer to that of the Mazda 5 however.

But over all its still better than its direct competition, but don't expect me to run out and order one right away. I did have the chance to test drive one for an event held by Ford however and it was interesting. I still would prefer the Focus wagon however. 2.0L I4 powershift GDI or EcoBoost ST 6MT guise please.
If I could buy a Focus wagon with the 1.6T there would be no reason for me to purchase a C-Max. I agree with all your points. The C-Max is the closest I can get to what I want, so it will have to do.
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OMGosh ... i think the C-max is horrid looking. hahaha
Horrid? I haven't heard that word since my grandmother used it in my youth and I'm old. Anyway, I think tastes vary but yours must vary by quite a lot because I think the C-Max Hybrid looks pretty good in addition to having a good amount of interior room and stellar fuel economy.



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Old 08-09-2012, 12:52 PM   #18
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Here are some fancy pics for everyone's reference. Looks a helluvalot better than it's main competition, the Prius V and Mazda5. Looks like the Escape and the C-Max gave birth to the Focus.

That's awesome that Bball's work gives him an incentive to buy it. Who do you work for, Al Gore Consulting LLC?





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Old 08-09-2012, 12:56 PM   #19
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Super deal, also besides the great cargo space the C-Max is a super drivers car, something the Prius will never be

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C-Max Hybrid cargo space (pic taken at Michigan Assembly Plant)


and also fold down seats without having to remove the head restraints
Great! Now can we get some of those head restraints on the focus? Cause taking them of is getting mighty annoying!

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Old 08-09-2012, 01:27 PM   #20
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