what's the difference? (boost) - Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum
Ford Focus Forum
HomeContact UsAbout UsGalleryDiscussion ForumsMarketplace


Go Back   Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum > Ford Focus Tech Discussions > General Forced Induction

General Forced Induction The place to chat about turbochargers, superchargers nitrous systems and custom engine fabrications.

Search This Forum | Image Search | Advanced Search    
Ford Focus Tire & Wheels FocusFanatics Merchandise

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-31-2012, 01:13 PM   #1
stealthzx3
Enthusiast
 
stealthzx3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Fan#: 94260
Location: Pulaski, WI
What I Drive: 2003 Black ZX3 SVT, 2001 Black ZX3

Posts: 6,529
Points 11,335, Level 70
Points: 11,335, Level: 70 Points: 11,335, Level: 70 Points: 11,335, Level: 70
Level Up 22% Completed
Level up: 22% Level up: 22% Level up: 22%
Forum Activity 1%
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
FF Reputation: 10 stealthzx3 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (22)
what's the difference? (boost)

alright, some of you may think this is a noob question, but i've really been thinking about it.

what is the difference between a procharger, supercharger, and turbo?


__________________
Focus Revolution

2003 EAP SVT #2752
stealthzx3 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-31-2012, 01:17 PM   #2
Aku
Sneeze
 
Aku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Fan#: 57726
Location: Novi, MI, United States
What I Drive: 04 A4 Avant, 04 R32T, 94 CBR

Posts: 10,313
Points 10,117, Level 67
Points: 10,117, Level: 67 Points: 10,117, Level: 67 Points: 10,117, Level: 67
Level Up 17% Completed
Level up: 17% Level up: 17% Level up: 17%
Forum Activity 5%
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
FF Reputation: 4 Aku Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (5)
Procharger is a brand name of a supercharger.

Superchargers run off your belt system and use a pully to spin a compressor to force air into your motor.

Turbo uses exhaust gases to spin a turbine that spins a compressor and to force air into motor.
__________________
'04 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T 6MT
'04 VW R32 - (O:o)=R32=W====(o:O)
'94 Honda CBR600 F2
Aku is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-31-2012, 01:18 PM   #3
lyonsroar
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Fan#: 63166
Location: Midwest, NE
What I Drive: 2009 Volkswagen GTI

Posts: 8,043
FF Reputation: 31 lyonsroar Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy Clarkson
A turbo, exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, with a supercharger, air goes in,witchcraft happens and you go faster.
lyonsroar is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-31-2012, 01:23 PM   #4
cbdallas
Focus Addict
 
cbdallas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Fan#: 100296
Location: Wylie, TX
What I Drive: 2014 Titanium 5-speed

Posts: 872
Points 2,434, Level 29
Points: 2,434, Level: 29 Points: 2,434, Level: 29 Points: 2,434, Level: 29
Level Up 90% Completed
Level up: 90% Level up: 90% Level up: 90%
Forum Activity 2%
Activity: 2% Activity: 2% Activity: 2%
FF Reputation: 3 cbdallas Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Supercharger: Produces boost by use of the engine's power. Usually belt-driven, they sit atop the intake and force air into the engine.

Turbocharger: Bolted to the exhaust manifold, produces boost by use of the engine's exhaust pressure. Basically a two-sided fan, one side is spun from exhaust pressure, the other side draws in air and forces it into the intake. Some call it 'free power', but it's not totally free. The more air you cram into an engine, the more fuel it requires to maintain the proper air/fuel ratio.

Pro Charger: SORT OF like a belt-driven turbocharger, but it's really a different kind of supercharger. It's added on to the front of the engine and uses power from the engine (via belt) to turn a centrifugal 'pump' to force air into the engine.
cbdallas is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-31-2012, 01:24 PM   #5
stealthzx3
Enthusiast
 
stealthzx3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Fan#: 94260
Location: Pulaski, WI
What I Drive: 2003 Black ZX3 SVT, 2001 Black ZX3

Posts: 6,529
Points 11,335, Level 70
Points: 11,335, Level: 70 Points: 11,335, Level: 70 Points: 11,335, Level: 70
Level Up 22% Completed
Level up: 22% Level up: 22% Level up: 22%
Forum Activity 1%
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
FF Reputation: 10 stealthzx3 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (22)
where do they make superchargers for the foci?

is it as much work as installing a turbo kit?
__________________
Focus Revolution

2003 EAP SVT #2752
stealthzx3 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-31-2012, 01:32 PM   #6
Aku
Sneeze
 
Aku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Fan#: 57726
Location: Novi, MI, United States
What I Drive: 04 A4 Avant, 04 R32T, 94 CBR

Posts: 10,313
Points 10,117, Level 67
Points: 10,117, Level: 67 Points: 10,117, Level: 67 Points: 10,117, Level: 67
Level Up 17% Completed
Level up: 17% Level up: 17% Level up: 17%
Forum Activity 5%
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
FF Reputation: 4 Aku Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (5)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbdallas View Post
Pro Charger: SORT OF like a belt-driven turbocharger, but it's really a different kind of supercharger. It's added on to the front of the engine and uses power from the engine (via belt) to turn a centrifugal 'pump' to force air into the engine.
A Procharger is basically belt driven turbo like he said.. its a centrifugal supercharger as opposed to the ones that bolt on to the intake are roots style super chargers (the ones that whine and sound awesome).

Vortec is another company that makes the centrifugal superchargers.


Only 3 Supercharger kits I know of for the focus are Jackson Racing, Powerworks (no longer makes anything new), and procharger.

Not sure if they are as much work to install but still require a good amount of mechanical knowledge
__________________
'04 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T 6MT
'04 VW R32 - (O:o)=R32=W====(o:O)
'94 Honda CBR600 F2
Aku is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-31-2012, 01:34 PM   #7
LouBomb
It was all a DREAM!
 
LouBomb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Fan#: 32545
Location: Chicago, IL
What I Drive: A magical pony by the name of Sally

Posts: 8,143
Points 11,129, Level 69
Points: 11,129, Level: 69 Points: 11,129, Level: 69 Points: 11,129, Level: 69
Level Up 70% Completed
Level up: 70% Level up: 70% Level up: 70%
Forum Activity 4%
Activity: 4% Activity: 4% Activity: 4%
FF Reputation: 9 LouBomb Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (3)
Also power difference... You can do sometimes twice if not more the HP on a turbo then you can on a supercharger.. at least for the focus..
__________________
2000 Turbo Zx3
2003 Pitch Black SVT
2000 SPI 220k miles all original THE UNICORN
Focus Revolution Club
Formely IMPORTKILLA35
LouBomb is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-31-2012, 01:43 PM   #8
stealthzx3
Enthusiast
 
stealthzx3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Fan#: 94260
Location: Pulaski, WI
What I Drive: 2003 Black ZX3 SVT, 2001 Black ZX3

Posts: 6,529
Points 11,335, Level 70
Points: 11,335, Level: 70 Points: 11,335, Level: 70 Points: 11,335, Level: 70
Level Up 22% Completed
Level up: 22% Level up: 22% Level up: 22%
Forum Activity 1%
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
FF Reputation: 10 stealthzx3 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (22)
hmm. my buddy just got a supercharged cavalier z24 and it pulls so hard.. it's a 6 second car, mine is 15-16 sec bone stock. that's why i would like to know. maybe i'll start looking into them.
__________________
Focus Revolution

2003 EAP SVT #2752
stealthzx3 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-31-2012, 01:47 PM   #9
rambleon84
So mote be it
 
rambleon84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Fan#: 51521
Location: columbus, OH
What I Drive: 2007 Dark Toreador Red ZX3

Posts: 5,527
Points 7,602, Level 58
Points: 7,602, Level: 58 Points: 7,602, Level: 58 Points: 7,602, Level: 58
Level Up 26% Completed
Level up: 26% Level up: 26% Level up: 26%
Forum Activity 14%
Activity: 14% Activity: 14% Activity: 14%
FF Reputation: 23 rambleon84 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (15)
This is a good read:
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...php?t=145826#2
rambleon84 is online now  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-31-2012, 01:55 PM   #10
stealthzx3
Enthusiast
 
stealthzx3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Fan#: 94260
Location: Pulaski, WI
What I Drive: 2003 Black ZX3 SVT, 2001 Black ZX3

Posts: 6,529
Points 11,335, Level 70
Points: 11,335, Level: 70 Points: 11,335, Level: 70 Points: 11,335, Level: 70
Level Up 22% Completed
Level up: 22% Level up: 22% Level up: 22%
Forum Activity 1%
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
FF Reputation: 10 stealthzx3 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (22)
Quote:
Originally Posted by rambleon84 View Post
that is a good read. now i just need some money for more power.
__________________
Focus Revolution

2003 EAP SVT #2752
stealthzx3 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Bookmarks & Social Networks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:53 AM.


Copyright 2002-2014 FocusFanatics.com. All Rights Reserved : Privacy Policy : Advertise Information

Focus Fanatics Ford Focus Forum offers many fun ways for you to engage with other Ford Focus Owners from across the world. Whether it be about the aftermarket performance modifications, technical how-to's, European tuned suspension or awesome fuel economy similar to the Audi S3, Ford Fusion and Acura TLX. You can find all Ford Focus and Focus ST related information here. Join our Ford Focus discussion forums and chat with local Focus enthusiasts in your area. Challenger Hellcat - Charger Hellcat