Remote Start and "Open Door Shut Off"

[Cserban]

You're lucky, I have some a-holes for a dealership.
I called to ask for the remote starter price and they told me $350.00 in parts, When I told them the MSRP is $289.00 they lowered it but bumped up the labor charge.
I decided I will buy it and install it myself.
Let me know how you like yours.

[Kgodreau]

Originally Posted by Yamazama

Same story.. purchased a 2012 Ti with dealer installed Remote Start. Engine turned off as soon as I touched the door handle (keyless). I found the remote start module tucked up behind my glove box accessible through the glove box inner back side. The Program Button was obvious and mounted right beside the module along side the red LED.

Option Bank 2 only had 6 options settings when I scrolled through with the brake pedal. I'm guessing some of us have different firmware or something. After playing around a bit, this is how it now functions:

-Remote starts with 2 sec hold
-Honks 4 times on start up and door remain locked to anyone without the fob
-Car DOES NOT shut off when I touch handle or open the door. Nice!

Settings:
Option 1: LED Off
Option 2: LED Off
Option 3: LED On
Option 4: LED On
Option 5: LED On
Option 6: LED On

The 4 honks are annoying. Still trying to figure that out. I should mention that using the pdf I downloaded here, from start to finish it took me 10 min to get this figured out. The dealership said it would charge me 1 hour labour and $130-150 to do the same thing. Oh did I mention I'm an engineer for Ford? And that I purchased the car on A-plan? If this is how dealerships treat their own... rant rant... I'll pipe down now.

If anyone with a 6 option Bank 2 figures out how to set it up so it doesn't honk AND without restart needed.. please post the settings.

Was anyone able to have a setup without the 4 honks yet?

[Yamazama]

Originally Posted by Kgodreau

Was anyone able to have a setup without the 4 honks yet?

The dealer installed remote start kit for the 2012 Focus is unique. This information probably won't transfer over exactly to other cars but the menu access & navigation will be the same. I have only tested this on a fully loaded 2012 titanium, auto, with push-button start & MyKey. I have a uni-directional remote start, not the bi-directional.

This is combination of Option Bank settings (LED on or off) required to achieve:

-No honk at start
-No shut off when handle is touched or if the door or liftgate are opened.
-15 min run time
-2.5 sec hold on button to start


Menu Description:


Option Bank 1 - 4 chirps
Option 1: Tach Learn (N/A)= OFF
Option 2: Door Ajar Polarity(On=pos; Off=Neg) = OFF
Option 3: Key in sense Polarity (On=pos; Off=Neg) = ON
Option 4: Extended Horn Output (On=3x horn output; Off=Normal horn ouput) = OFF

Option Bank 2 - 5 chirps
Option 1: Blind Crank of Tach Mode (On=blind crank; Off=Tach Mode) = OFF
Option 2: Crank Time (On=1sec; Off=8sec) = ON
Option 3: Run Time (On=15min; Off=10min) = ON
Option 4: Start Activation (On=hold 2.5 seconds; Off=double press button) = ON
Option 5: Diesel Timer (On=30sec crank delay; Off=No Delay)= OFF
Option 6: Hon on Start (On=honk confirmation: Off=No honk) = OFF

The key to the no horn/no shutoff combo is changing Bank 2 Option 1 to OFF in combination with Bank 1 Option 4 to OFF. If you leave Bank 1 Option 4 ON it will chirp 4 times at start up but not shut off on door opening. You can toggle the other options to suit your prefs. Those 4 chirps are just the system telling you that your tach needs to be programmed because you've changed Bank 2 Option 1 to Tach Mode (which it isn't) so it expects a signal between the remote start module and the engine. There is no connection in this case, hence the error chirps. I am not sure at all why this works. I'm uncertain as to why Tach Mode seems to cancel the auto shut off. If you make a mistake you can always reset the settings to default by holding the transmitter button for 3-4 seconds while in menu mode at any time. Next, change Bank 2 Option 1 to ON, and you should be at your factory installed settings.

Please post your experiences.
Yamazama

[TiPilot]

Unfortunately I can't even find the LED on mine - the installer must've left it somewhere behind the glovebox. The install procedure has you install the glovebox, then do the programming, leaving the LED visible. Looks like my installer just left the glovebox out when he programmed it. So, long story short, unless I completely remove the glovebox (which I don't really want to do...) it doesn't look like I'll be able to re-program mine and report back.

[choyrl]

Originally Posted by Yamazama

The dealer installed remote start kit for the 2012 Focus is unique. This information probably won't transfer over exactly to other cars but the menu access & navigation will be the same. I have only tested this on a fully loaded 2012 titanium, auto, with push-button start & MyKey. I have a uni-directional remote start, not the bi-directional.

This is combination of Option Bank settings (LED on or off) required to achieve:

-No honk at start
-No shut off when handle is touched or if the door or liftgate are opened.
-15 min run time
-2.5 sec hold on button to start


Menu Description:


Option Bank 1 - 4 chirps
Option 1: Tach Learn (N/A)= OFF
Option 2: Door Ajar Polarity(On=pos; Off=Neg) = OFF
Option 3: Key in sense Polarity (On=pos; Off=Neg) = ON
Option 4: Extended Horn Output (On=3x horn output; Off=Normal horn ouput) = OFF

Option Bank 2 - 5 chirps
Option 1: Blind Crank of Tach Mode (On=blind crank; Off=Tach Mode) = OFF
Option 2: Crank Time (On=1sec; Off=8sec) = ON
Option 3: Run Time (On=15min; Off=10min) = ON
Option 4: Start Activation (On=hold 2.5 seconds; Off=double press button) = ON
Option 5: Diesel Timer (On=30sec crank delay; Off=No Delay)= OFF
Option 6: Hon on Start (On=honk confirmation: Off=No honk) = OFF

The key to the no horn/no shutoff combo is changing Bank 2 Option 1 to OFF in combination with Bank 1 Option 4 to OFF. If you leave Bank 1 Option 4 ON it will chirp 4 times at start up but not shut off on door opening. You can toggle the other options to suit your prefs. Those 4 chirps are just the system telling you that your tach needs to be programmed because you've changed Bank 2 Option 1 to Tach Mode (which it isn't) so it expects a signal between the remote start module and the engine. There is no connection in this case, hence the error chirps. I am not sure at all why this works. I'm uncertain as to why Tach Mode seems to cancel the auto shut off. If you make a mistake you can always reset the settings to default by holding the transmitter button for 3-4 seconds while in menu mode at any time. Next, change Bank 2 Option 1 to ON, and you should be at your factory installed settings.

Please post your experiences.
Yamazama

Sorry for a basic question....What is the difference btw the uni vs bi-directional remote start? Is it worth to pay the price difference if not yet installed or do a complete remove and replace after the dealer-installed remote start? Or what is the big advantage with the bi-directional remote start?

Thanks.

[choyrl]

Originally Posted by treoless

I didn't know either until I read this post yesterday. Called the dealership today and was told they had never heard of an OEM bi-directional system. Called the dealer's contracted installer and was told the same thing. The contractor called their parts vendor and was told the bi-directional system is not available on 2012 Focus w/push start.

I almost gave up but tried calling 1-800-FORDKEY. The agent confirmed the bi-directional system IS available and the part # is CM5Z-19G364-D. Gave the part# to the installer and they were able to find it. They offered to swap it in for $200 (parts+labor). I thought it was a little steep because the price difference is only $72 and they would only need to change the wiring harness. Called the dealer again for help getting the price down. Then the installer called me saying the dealer was willing to pay $125 for labor and I just need to pay $75. It's been a week since I paid for and took delivery of my car. They did this just to make me happy. The way they do business really changed my view of car salesmen.

So how do you like the bi-directional remote start?

I am picking my new '12 Ti this week and the standard remote start was installed by the dealer yesterday and my sale consultant was not able to tell me what type of a remote start was installed. In any case, if it is a uni-directional, it's too late for me to change it out now without a complete system change out. Anyway, I hope the remote start they installed will work well on my new Ti.

[treoless]

Originally Posted by choyrl

So how do you like the bi-directional remote start?

I am picking my new '12 Ti this week and the standard remote start was installed by the dealer yesterday and my sale consultant was not able to tell me what type of a remote start was installed. In any case, if it is a uni-directional, it's too late for me to change it out now without a complete system change out. Anyway, I hope the remote start they installed will work well on my new Ti.

I like it a lot. It beeps twice after the car has started successfully and a green LED blinks while the car is running. The bi-directional system comes with only one remote though.

[choyrl]

Originally Posted by treoless

I like it a lot. It beeps twice after the car has started successfully and a green LED blinks while the car is running. The bi-directional system comes with only one remote though.

I fwd'd the part # you quoted to my sales consultant and she was going to check if that matched what was installed on my car today. She did not get back to me today.

I'm hoping since my Ti was built is so close to the new 2013 model year which supposed to have the bi-directional remote start as standard on the Ti, that Ford may have gone to shipping the bi-directional remote to the dealer to be installed on my Focus. The build date of my 2012 Focus is 05/27/12. Excite to delivery this Friday.

[treoless]

Originally Posted by choyrl

I fwd'd the part # you quoted to my sales consultant and she was going to check if that matched what was installed on my car today. She did not get back to me today.

I'm hoping since my Ti was built is so close to the new 2013 model year which supposed to have the bi-directional remote start as standard on the Ti, that Ford may have gone to shipping the bi-directional remote to the dealer to be installed on my Focus. The build date of my 2012 Focus is 05/27/12. Excite to delivery this Friday.

Just ask her what the remote looks like. The bi-directional has a small antenna. Enjoy your new ride!

[choyrl]

Originally Posted by treoless

Just ask her what the remote looks like. The bi-directional has a small antenna. Enjoy your new ride!

So other than the advantage of the "2-way" communication of a bi-directional system, i.e., receiving a confirmation feedback of your commands, do you not have the annoyances and quirkiness of the uni-directional remote that other folks seemed to be bothered by as shown in this posting?

To ask the question differently to everyone who had reprogrammed their uni-directional system, are you happy now with the re-programmed uni remote start? Is the system working the way it should be without sacrificing other build-in functions of a "push button" start Titanium? Thanks.