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Old 05-14-2012, 02:58 PM   #41
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I think this is the only forum I'm part of that even a simple, kind TSB post turns into pages of bickering about a pretty much unrelated topic.
Better yet people show up only to bicker about the bickering at hand. Ziiing! And it is related as it's part of the verbiage in the TSB.

As Moose said, it's pretty much the way of forum life.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:10 PM   #42
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What if i do not want the engine system to use up a chunk of gasoline to make certain other folks 2012's do not stall?

I do NOT plan on ever getting this 'fix' if i cann help it.
I am perfectly fine with my manual transmission's functioning.
And yes as a lifetime (47 plus years of driving) manual tranny driver, one can always repeat ALWAYS (with some talent?) get a manual tranny car to start moving forward witn zero application of the foot on the gas.
And the event is NOT going to do ANY damage to a clutch.
(though if you did it ten thousand time it would be a problem...)

((The ritualistic flaming so far in this thread has been funny as Hell.))

Also, the Focus has a small engine. Folks used to a much higher initial torque engine might give the Focus engine a break.
Though if you came from driving small engine European cars, the Focus, in comparison has gobs of torque!!
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Old 05-14-2012, 04:45 PM   #43
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I wonder if this might be whats up with mine... at times you can take off normally with no problem.. other times it bogs down.. unless you rev it a bit and slip the clutch... otherwise it feels like it falls flat on its face unless you stomp on the damn thing and get it revving up good.. I just figured it was a quirk with the drive by wire bullsh.. err stuff that i aint quite used to yet.. I still wish this thing had a cable driven throttle...
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Well, I just did the update after work and it seems like that dead spot after taking off is smoothed out (the delay in throttle). My A/C always has been really good and it still didn't miss a beat so I'm not sure whether there is an improvement with that (maybe for some people who actually have problems with that?). It also feels like tip in/tip out low speed parking lot manoeuvres are smoother as well though I'm not a jerky driver to begin with.

My phone button, aux input button, and voice command button are now working again so it saved me from pulling my fuse. LOL.

As for Elizabeth, it doesn't burn tons of fuel on takeoff. LOL this isn't a JATO rocket strapped onto a C130 type update. Don't take such an extreme point of view to a simple thing! hahaha
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:33 AM   #45
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Well, I just did the update after work and it seems like that dead spot after taking off is smoothed out (the delay in throttle). My A/C always has been really good and it still didn't miss a beat so I'm not sure whether there is an improvement with that (maybe for some people who actually have problems with that?). It also feels like tip in/tip out low speed parking lot manoeuvres are smoother as well though I'm not a jerky driver to begin with.

My phone button, aux input button, and voice command button are now working again so it saved me from pulling my fuse. LOL.

As for Elizabeth, it doesn't burn tons of fuel on takeoff. LOL this isn't a JATO rocket strapped onto a C130 type update. Don't take such an extreme point of view to a simple thing! hahaha
Can you help me out here Rat? What exactly is "tip in/tip out"? Google search yields vague references but no real definition.

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Can you help me out here Rat? What exactly is "tip in/tip out"? Google search yields vague references but no real definition.

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In simplest explanation, "Tip in" for modern vehicles is usually regarded as the transition from having your foot off the accel pedal to applying throttle. For my car there was a noticable delay/hesitation from when I began to apply throttle to when I actually felt the acceleration. During low speed parking lot driving where I was feathering the throttle, the delay at times was quite pronounced for my car and sometimes made it feel jerky.
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Tip in is usually the application of throttle from at rest (Not pushing the pedal at all) to just a little application of the pedal (regular driving when pulling out). Basically when you get a tune on your car, that is one of the things a "good" tuner will do. It just "feels" better when pulling out normally.

Not sure if that is what they're calling it though.
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I just had this done as well (was already going in to pick up/get installed the dealer accessories I ordered). First gear feels a lot smoother now. I like it!
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How long did the dealer need the car for?
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How long did the dealer need the car for?
A PCM reflash can be done in < 30 minutes.
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