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Old 05-10-2012, 08:30 AM   #31
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so why would one buy the steeda over the K&N?
The Steeda unit comes with a seperate MAF housing made of billet aluminum with the velocity stack, which will flow more air with less turbulence. And should lead to better gains once tuning is available as well.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:32 AM   #32
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They dont use a dynometer its a digital calc. they test acceleration and get a base then test it again after the mods the better the acceleration the hp is calculated... thats why its off.

Ill bet 300 bucks it makes 10+ whp on a real dyno
It's the biggest calculator I have EVER seen!




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The Steeda unit comes with a seperate MAF housing made of billet aluminum with the velocity stack, which will flow more air with less turbulence. And should lead to better gains once tuning is available as well.
The Steeda unit looks great! It's really a choice you will have to make, I'm just glad that we released an intake system that you guys helped with!

As far as voiding factory warranties go please read here....

http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massairpledge.htm

the part from our CEO is in bold, we stand behind our products and our customers 100% "K&N pledges to our customers that they will not be taken advantage of and charged for a repair due to a dealership warranty denial blamed on the presence of a K&N product."

Steven Rogers, CEO



and the warranty on our filters can be found here....
http://www.knfilters.com/warranty.htm

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The Steeda unit comes with a seperate MAF housing made of billet aluminum with the velocity stack, which will flow more air with less turbulence. And should lead to better gains once tuning is available as well.
Same can be said with k&ns system that has a complete tb to filter set up. They both are great systems but you just can't beat k&ns customer service and warranty and that's a fact.

Hold the phone the 2012 was on the Dyno? Crazy low numbers maybe it was a brand new 2012 not broken in lol!
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The steeda is cheaper. The steeda heat shield doesnt leave the intake open.
I may be mistaken but the K&N intake looks like it isolates the filter from the rest of the engine bay pretty well.



I would gladly put it through its paces in Georgia if the opportunity were to arise.
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I may be mistaken but the K&N intake looks like it isolates the filter from the rest of the engine bay pretty well.



I would gladly put it through its paces in Georgia if the opportunity were to arise.
it isolates it from the engine yes, but not from heat from below, and it doesnt seal against the hood preventing water from getting in. it is like the fswerks design except twice the price. I am sure it works great, and really all of the intakes except the AEM are all roughly the same.
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it isolates it from the engine yes, but not from the hood, it is like the fswerks design except twice the price.
It doesn't seal against the hood? What is the rubber seal around the top of the frame for?
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it isolates it from the engine yes, but not from heat from below, and it doesnt seal against the hood preventing water from getting in. it is like the fswerks design except twice the price. I am sure it works great, and really all of the intakes except the AEM are all roughly the same.
It does seal from the hood, in my opinion it one ups the steeda by having a full system. regardless of velocity stack without the wrinkle tube removed that seems a bit worthless to me. Also the k&n will not get any water the shortram was tested for longer then the steeda was.

K&n is a major company I think they know their stuff. This is the only short ram I would own in my opinion.

This is the intake system my shop will be offering for the 2012 focus.
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It doesn't seal against the hood? What is the rubber seal around the top of the frame for?
look at the installed picture, yes the heat shield does, but the filter is to the right of that, with nothing on 5 of the 6 sides around it, it isnt like the steeda where there is basically a box on 4 sides and the top is sealed by the hood leaving only 1 open side.

I am not saying there is anything wrong with their design, it probably works fine, but it basically is an open filter with a heat shield like the fswerks.
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look at the installed picture, yes the heat shield does, but the filter is to the right of that, with nothing on 5 of the 6 sides around it, it isnt like the steeda where there is basically a box on 4 sides and the top is sealed by the hood leaving only 1 open side.

I am not saying there is anything wrong with their design, it probably works fine, but it basically is an open filter with a heat shield like the fswerks.
Except the FSworks design doesn't seal against the hood to isolate the filter from most of the engine bay like the Steeda and K&N intakes do.


And also, how much heat does a headlight housing add to the ambient air temp? I wouldn't think it's much but I could be wrong.
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