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Old 05-03-2012, 11:30 PM   #41
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One can never tell can they?

http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Article/86247/flat_tappet_camshaft_breakin_procedure.aspx[/url]



tapĚpet/ˈtapit/
Noun:
A lever or projecting part on a machine that intermittently makes contact with a cam or other part so as to give or receive motion.

or

A lever or projecting arm that moves or is moved by contact with another part, usually to transmit motion, as between a driving mechanism and a valve.

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A sliding rod, intermittently struck by a cam, for moving another part, as a valve.


Zetecs use parts that are definitely flat and tappets. Maybe not lifter, since lifter lifts up and these push down. Irrelevant however since the intended action is the exact same, to open the valve.

I guess we could call them....openers?
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:46 AM   #42
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Buckets are MUCH lighter , Over Head Valve engines do NOT require the same amount of spring psi , with the lower amount of spring psi and the lighter buckets vs "lifters" you do NOT have to do the same type break in as with a convention engine

I dont know how much clearer I can say this

As for these facts being irrelevant and the intended actions being the same makes me thing you havent built many engines or you dont have a clue what your talking about

V8 Conventional engine has a rocker arm , push rod , higher spring psi and much heavier lifters with a MUCH smaller base circle , you have to take all this weight into account , the motions , the rocker arm ratio etc , that irrelevant ?

DOHC Zetec has a VERY LIGHT bucket with almost 2 times the sufface area and thats it , no other moving parts or weight

I find that VERY relevent

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Old 05-05-2012, 01:35 AM   #43
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Hey, they're engine builders, they say to use that procedure on EVERYTHING THEY REBUILD, yep even lowly tinkertoy zetecs.

Look, it's all about GUARANTEED end result on ANY engine. The idea being to put everything in your favor you can. I am well aware of how little spring load is on these. I can push the valves open by hand on the stock ones.

The statement about having not built any engines is pretty funny, I'll leave it at that. Once you build enough of them you figure out it doesn't matter what you call the parts, what matters is what you do with them. Lifter, tappet, follower, bucket, all same part to me, all I need to know is what engine I'm working on to draw up a plan. On all the Honda bike DOHC twincams I built the 'bucket' as you call it was called tappet or lifter by them in the manual. Later manuals changed to word lifter only to apparently avoid confusion. Looking in them as I write. I guess they're idiots too, huh?

The intended actions ARE the same, to open/close the valve. What other thing could they do?? Maybe YOU are the one that has not built very many engines, eh?

Com'on, we both know otherwise, you sound pretty smart to me. You just need to back off putting it out there like you are the only guy that can build a motor. I've got literally hundreds under my belt and no time to tell all of them. Heck, I could pick up some puffer knowledge from you, all my stuff was pretty much NA.
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Blown or turblowed..................mechanical supercharger or turbocharger.
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This thread will never die nor will Tom cease to pontificate.
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pbfoot , if you cannot talk about whats being talked about you use fancy words and talk about the talkers LOL ... nice whoos being pompous now ?

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Touche, just wanted to see if you would take the bait. You did not disappoint.
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Touche, just wanted to see if you would take the bait. You did not disappoint.
I am glad I didnt disappoint you and could be here for your amusement , next show starts about 11:00

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