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Old 03-14-2012, 04:43 PM   #21
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EDIT: See Kam327's post below for an updated table...

From the thread titled "Bad News For New Focus Enthusiast Customers"

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Alright, here's what I found:

Using FordEtis I ran a bunch of VIN's (found using a Google search).

The lowest SE sport VIN I found was 125979 (built 4/6):

BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-NG* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

Here is a standard SE VIN 155082:

BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-NG* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

Here is a Titanium (less handling package) VIN 155002:

BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-NG* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

Here is a Titanium (with handling package) VIN 189007:

BV61-5310-MD* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-MD* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

But a lot of components say:

BV61-5310-NF* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-NF* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

So I'm guessing it's a revision change or something?
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:46 PM   #22
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also to the op if your going to go with the se call and change to the 203 option if you can.just having the usb jack makes that upgrade worth it.i dont use cds.just load up a memory stick stick it in and forget about it.also sirius is a nice upgrade, i made the mistake of ordering mine without it inbuilt, (in canada its an option) and i regret it everyday while looking at the aftermarket one i had to stick on my dash.
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Here's a similar version of it I just found:

This is compiled from checking dealer inventory VINs in Etis, parts lists from Fordparts.com, and information from other posters. It is interesting to see how the different models are packaged. It also makes me wonder if there are errors in Etis. For example, I don't see the "MD" rear springs being used with any model, but I expected them to be used on the Titanium with 18" wheels. Also, the SE Sport uses the S rear springs?

There is no difference between hatch and sedan suspensions.
All models use the same stabilizer bars - 23.5mm front and 19mm rear.
Both suspension packages use standard brake calipers and pads.
There are two different front lower control arms - one for the S model (15" wheels) and one for all other models (16", 17" and I assume 18" wheels).
Front suspension knuckles are the same, but different rear (I think) suspension knuckles for 18" wheels.

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standard suspension (shocks)
BV61-5310-NF* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-NF* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NF* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NF* Right Rr Coil Spring

SE
With 6.5J X 16" Steel Wheel
standard suspension (shocks)
BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-NG* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

SE - sport package
7 X 16" Alloy ET 50MM Style 2
touring suspension (shocks)
BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-NG* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NF* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NF* Right Rr Coil Spring

SEL
7 X 16" Alloy Wheels
standard suspension (shocks)
BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-NG* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

Titanium
7J X 17" Style 5 Alloy Wheel
touring suspension (shocks)
BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-NG* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

Titanium - 18" alloy wheels
8 X 18 ET 55MM Alloy Style 2
With Handling Suspension (shocks)
BV61-5310-MD* Left Front Coil
BV61-5310-MD* Right Front Coil
BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring
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So basically they all have the same suspension except the Ti w/ handling package (which we knew), the S, and apparently the rear of the SE Sport which is the same as the S. That's wierd.
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Oh, sorry, on closer inspection apparently the shocks do come in three varations: standard, touring and handling. Props to Azul for remembering that. Wonder what they mean. Assuming standard is the softest and handling the firmest?
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Except the SE Sport and base Ti show Touring Suspension, apparently due to different shock packages.

My Ti listed "Touring Suspension" on ETIS, but I never knew what the difference was due to the fact that the springs numbers were the same for the base SE and SEL.
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Except the SE Sport and base Ti show Touring Suspension, apparently due to different shock packages.

My Ti listed "Touring Suspension" on ETIS, but I never knew what the difference was due to the fact that the springs numbers were the same for the base SE and SEL.
Just confirmed on ETIS my SEL has "standard suspension" and an SE Sport I was originally looking at has "touring". I guess all SEL's have the softer suspension. I would've thought if you upgraded to the 17" wheels you'd get the same shocks as the Ti. Guess not.
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:58 PM   #28
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Politely requsting your source on the standard suspension differences. I've never seen any mention of suspension differences between trims except for the Ti Handling Package with 18" wheels which claims to have "optimized sport suspension components" whichi I thought just meant it's slightly stiffer.

I'm also skeptical, based on what others have reported on here, of any significant differences between the seats in the SE Sport, SEL and Ti.
I totally understand the skepticism, there is a lot of information out there and its hard to comb through it some times. All mine comes from Ford Co.(not the dealer).

The only difference between the SE sport package seats and the titanium is the fabric, but the cloth seats in the SEL and non sport package SE's are regular cloth seats without the extra bolstering. As for the suspension it is different, the titanium is the only one that gets the performance set up. I know this from the window stickers. Performance suspension is listed under functional equipment on the titanium but not the SE.
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I totally understand the skepticism, there is a lot of information out there and its hard to comb through it some times. All mine comes from Ford Co.(not the dealer).

The only difference between the SE sport package seats and the titanium is the fabric, but the cloth seats in the SEL and non sport package SE's are regular cloth seats without the extra bolstering. As for the suspension it is different, the titanium is the only one that gets the performance set up. I know this from the window stickers. Performance suspension is listed under functional equipment on the titanium but not the SE.
Thanks. I see that on the Titanium sticker now - but it appears to be BS. As you can see from posts a few hours ago the shocks appear to be the same as the SE Sport's and the springs are the same as the SE's and SEL's.

And the Ti's "Sport Seats" also appear to be BS, if they have the same support as the SE Sport's. A different fabric doesn't constitute sport seating IMHO.

Can't trust the marketing gurus.....
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Thanks. I see that on the Titanium sticker now - but it appears to be BS. As you can see from posts a few hours ago the shocks appear to be the same as the SE Sport's and the springs are the same as the SE's and SEL's.

And the Ti's "Sport Seats" also appear to be BS, if they have the same support as the SE Sport's. A different fabric doesn't constitute sport seating IMHO.

Can't trust the marketing gurus.....
Yeah, the seats in the SE sport and the Titanium are exactly the same except for the fabric. But the standard SE seats are different.

Back to the main differences of the SE and Titanium. (what he was trying to figure out at the benign of the post lol) The only differences for going to NOTICE is the few exterior features and the technology
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