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It would be my assumption that the computer algorithm contained within the OEM module is optimized to a particular engine and transmission type so the throttle modulation is appropriate for each powerplant and axle gear. Aftermarket modules typically have adjustable sensitivity settings so the throttle position isn't moved to quickly or slowly with changes in speed and so the change in throttle position is appropriate (not too little or too much). Basically, higher power engines with deeper gears require far less sensitivity and the servo requires less delta appplied to maintain steady speed with changing load. A module for a lower power car with highway gearing would cause the muscle car to hunt. However this is less true with complex algorithms that monitor rate of change. Some folks may notice that Ford OEM cruise controls are inferior to most Chrysler of similar vintage. My '02 Taurus tends to fall asleep when entering an incline and then suddenly apply hard throttle to recover..it also overshoots at the crest of every hill with delayed throttle closing...while my similarly-underpowered '01 Dodge Caravan maintains perfect speed, smooth as glass.
Since OEM modules are fixed, so they are pretuned for certain hardware. this doesn't mean wiring differs. |
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http://www.youtube.com/user/MrJayrodo Last three videos are the cruise control videos (Parts 1-3 so far) I still need to make the wiring guide, I'll try to do that on Friday and post it up along with a new thread that has all the instructions. You say you have the wheel, but do you have a servo yet? The videos show exactly what you need. It's all the same on 00-07 just from 05-07 your servo will be located at the front of the engine bay behind the driver side headlight. Quote:
The servo itself it pretty generic I've come to find that it was the same design on the mercury cougar and a few mustangs that I saw at the junk yard, but those had different pin-outs and different circuit board numbers so it probably isn't worth the hassle trying to get those to work on a Focus. |
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Your videos on youtube are wonderful. However it took me some time to realize all the harness hacking you did under the dash around the fusebox was simply to obtain some scrap multicolor wire to "reuse". I guess that's the difference between a thrifty student and an old engineer with spare cash and a cellar full of scrap wire. Looks like it took a whole decade to get a comprehensive cruise install procedure posted on the internet for '00 to '07 focus...thanks so much for that! PS: Ford parts websites show a unique clockspring for 2005 thru 2007. I'm not clear if air bag, turn signals, cruise, horn or something else changed. Last edited by Lscman; 02-23-2012 at 12:12 AM. |
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OK, some more info....
I own a 2007 Focus S strippo car with manual tranny. Keep in mind that cruise was not even an option on an S car. Today I installed a tach cluster and made the following discoveries: 1) My car appears to have some or all OEM cruise wiring harness installed already, so the rumor that these cars are somewhat "ready" must be true. 2) the green connector to the pedal assy with 2 green wires with white tracer is folded back and taped near the pedal bracket. 3) clockspring appears to be wired on the 9 pin bottom connector. I was unable to see the pin #'s, but here the colors from left to right: white w green tracer blue w green tracer green w yellow tracer brown white black w blue tracer black black w orange tracer green w red tracer Also, as I viewed some ford internet parts sites I noticed that the clock spring got more expensive for models around 2006 and newer. I'm not sure why, but it appears to differ from the 2004 and earlier version. I haven't researched part numbers. The bracket on my 2007 manual tranny pedal assembly has two switches on it. A big blue one on the left with 5 pin red connector and a black switch on the right side of the bracket (closer to brake) with black 3 pin connector. A spare hole sits above the black gadget for mounting another switch....maybe the green connector would plug into it. hope this helps some. rick |
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The details about 2005 cars are muddy in my mind. It appears to be carryover from '04 design.
However with respect to 2006 thru 2007 vintage cars, it appears they are all wired for cruise (ready). There does not appear to be a clockspring part# without cruise for this vintage, so it's equipped with one. The car also came equipped with clutch switch. The servo module is built into the cruise servo beginning in 2006, so there's not stand-alone cruise control module. For this reason, the wiring to the servo is similar if not identical to the wiring to the pre-'05 module. From what I can see, the only things missing on my car are: 1) speed control servo (has integral module with 10 pin electrical plug) 2) cruise switches for steering wheel (or complete cruise steering wheel) 3) brake pedal position switch I am confused whether the ECM/PCM needs programmed for cruise. I don't see why this would be necessary since the speed sensing is a standard feature and the cruise module intelligence is contained in the servo assy. But I really don't know. |
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I don't think anything has changed on the clock spring from 05 and above but it looked similar and the plugs were the same. I did notice that on an 04 that did not have cruise, it did have the clock spring for the cruise wires and the connector had the white, brown, and green/yellow wires on it, so maybe after 04 they decided to just have one clock spring instead of two? Quote:
The hole above the black switch is the where the green brake pedal position switch goes. You said that the green switch was there, where is it tied away at? Quote:
The ECU/PCM does not need to be programmed to use cruise. Only 08 and above need to be programmed since they are drive-by-wire systems. The only thing the PCM is used for with cruise on the 00-07 is Pin # 28 which is the Vehicle Speed Sensor, but I've come to find that you don't even need to run a wire all the way over to that side of the car, all you need to do is tap into the Green/White wire from the radio, which is the same signal. |
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I'm not understanding what all the '06-'07 Focus cruise ecms are selling on ebay because they never show a pic. Are those servo modules? I read threads here claiming the pcm needs programmed to enable cruise but maybe that's for '09 and up fly by wire. Some go so far as claiming you need ot visit the dealer for a reflash and provide them a VIN# of a car with cruise. I need to understand where the servo is mounted on '06 and '07 car. I see the battery box bracket has some space between the fender and battery with three bosses on it to accept bolts. However some service manal pics suggest the bracket is on the engine. There is also a little aluminum platform mount over top of the tranny bell just behind the cylinder head that would seem to fit a servo. |
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OK, the '06 to '07 cruise servo/module is mounted on an existing black painted steel bracket found on all cars which extends between the front of the battery rack to the left fender. It has threaded bosses on it to mount the servo module. I guess the bracket is discontinued because everyone already has a one on their car. There are two different servos for '06-'07 cars, one is for 2.3L and another for 2.0L. I imagine it is calibrated differently since the motors and throttle bodies are quite different.
The green connector on my '07 car (without cruise) is taped to the harness about 2" away from where it would connect to a cruise control brake position sensor. It's easy to spot. |
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