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Old 02-18-2012, 12:20 PM   #11
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The thing that is holding me back a little from the FRPP is that it drops the car, thus reduces the suspension travel. I'm okay with that sort of set up on the highways however local roads already has my car's front lip dragging at certain intersections.

Also, I suppose it is safe to assume the FRPP does not offer a sway bar?

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Old 02-18-2012, 12:21 PM   #12
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My header never hits, but the front tires will rub if I hit a dip with the wheels cut. Stock SVT suspension with new dampers.
Wheels cut = turned all the way?
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Stock wheels and tires won't rub. If you bump up to the 17x7 wheels and 215 wide tires, it might be an issue.
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Wheels cut = turned all the way?
Not full lock. Just like turning onto a side street or something.
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Another thought that came to my mind is if I were to go with FRPP or even the SVT, was that I may get into a little more trouble.

Mind you, my car has no ABS nor TC unlike the SVTF; so I guess I'm looking for a suspension that has mild undertones of understeer without any oversteer, unless induced by trail braking or lift off oversteer...
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Its FWD so as long as you don't go yanking on the e-brake in the middle of a turn, you're going to get exactly what you described with either setup.
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FRPP's spring's/strut's/shock's= Toulsey Ford

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Another thought that came to my mind is if I were to go with FRPP or even the SVT, was that I may get into a little more trouble.

Mind you, my car has no ABS nor TC unlike the SVTF; so I guess I'm looking for a suspension that has mild undertones of understeer without any oversteer, unless induced by trail braking or lift off oversteer...
You really won't have any issue's w/ either setup. Your strut's/shock's are probably worn out= more body roll/ brake dive. Lowering your car lower's the center of gravitiy= Lot less body roll & brake dive= you will find your brake's work better, instead of having a lot of weight tranfer. You will find you need more work on your car to get lift throttle oversteer w/ this FRPP's suspension.
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An most svt's dont have TC that ive seen... wint package option i think
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An most svt's dont have TC that ive seen... wint package option i think
That's strange considering I live in California and every single one that I test drove before buying my ZX3 had the winter package, right down to the heated seats...
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You really won't have any issue's w/ either setup. Your strut's/shock's are probably worn out= more body roll/ brake dive. Lowering your car lower's the center of gravitiy= Lot less body roll & brake dive= you will find your brake's work better, instead of having a lot of weight tranfer. You will find you need more work on your car to get lift throttle oversteer w/ this FRPP's suspension.
I called Tousley today, apparently Steve and Mike R. are out of the office and the guy there couldn't give me a quote. At least it gives me an extra day to weigh my options.

I definitely understand the concept of lowering as a testament of lowering the car's center of gravity. The real question aside from handling is how the FRPP's lower (and possibly harder) springs will do on roads that are less than smooth.

What other kind of work would need to be carried out in order to get lift throttle oversteer with the FRPP?
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