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Old 01-13-2012, 08:54 PM   #161
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I guess I have not driven in deep snow with the stock tires. Well with the winter tires yet either. Also I have the Titanium with 17s so maybe they are different tires than you have on your SE, not sure.

I know what you mean about the Impreza. Subies in general handle awewome even with worn tires. My WRX (actually a 92x Aero) handled awesome with 45k on stock all season Potenzas. Even more amazing with new Conti DWS.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:21 PM   #162
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Not too good, I think it might be the suspension package with the summer tires. lol
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:03 PM   #163
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I'm running 15" snow tires, all studded, and still getting in the 6.8 litre/100 range, except when it's extremely cold, like yesterday at -29 celsius (before windchill factor). Pretty much all highway to work at about 90 km/h.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:06 PM   #164
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I'm running 15" snow tires, all studded, and still getting in the 6.8 litre/100 range, except when it's extremely cold, like yesterday at -29 celsius (before windchill factor). Pretty much all highway to work at about 90 km/h.
15" studless here. Surprisingly, gas mileage hasn't changed much at all since I switched tires.

On the note of snow handling, I was passing everyone up on the highway today.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:56 AM   #165
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Focus driving on snow videos

Titanium w/17" standard ContiProContact tires on the ice and snow...

This user has uploaded several videos on the snow. The "Low-speed ice test" video shows the drivetrain making some interesting noises.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mercmila.../3/hGALzX9CZTA
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:00 AM   #166
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got just 4 80% tread winter tires and in 3 inches of snow 7% grade hill from a dead stop ... no problem
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Winter Rims = OEM Full Size Rim

With 18" 5-spoke rims and Michelin Summer-Use tires, I felt that I had no choice but to order steel rims. Put fullsize 16" spare (standard with 18" Rims/Performance Pkg). on counter at local Ford Dealer and told them to match identical rim and 4 TPMS's. After all, why have 3 different rim sizes? Brother in law is tire dealer and put Michelin X-Ice Xi2 which had $70.00 rebate, here in Canada.
Trouble is: lowest snowfall in recent memory but rain traction is excellent!
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The stock contis are aweful on 17" rims. I couldn't make it into a parking spot on a slight grade maybe 1%, and it took a long time to pull into the other spot with just a slight incline. Pulling out onto the highway is dangerous, the tires spin and spin, you can't steer the car while its doing this, the engine cuts power, and once there is traction its unpredictably slow to take off. The car is doing all it can, both tires attempt to pull the car, and the stability control keeps the back end from sliding around, but these tires are the worst I've ever used. The groves pack with snow and don't clean, the only way to get any bite is to turn trac control off and spin them fast enough to clear the snow from the treads. They also deform like old radials if I let the car sit overnight, the first mile or so is bumpy from the tires.
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I have the 18" Sport Wheels with the Summer Tires. In short, I could probably walk faster through snow then how these tires handle it. However I will be getting new Wheels/Tires soley for Winter use.
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:05 PM   #170
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The stock contis are aweful on 17" rims. I couldn't make it into a parking spot on a slight grade maybe 1%, and it took a long time to pull into the other spot with just a slight incline. Pulling out onto the highway is dangerous, the tires spin and spin, you can't steer the car while its doing this, the engine cuts power, and once there is traction its unpredictably slow to take off. The car is doing all it can, both tires attempt to pull the car, and the stability control keeps the back end from sliding around, but these tires are the worst I've ever used. The groves pack with snow and don't clean, the only way to get any bite is to turn trac control off and spin them fast enough to clear the snow from the treads. They also deform like old radials if I let the car sit overnight, the first mile or so is bumpy from the tires.
What is the exact model you have? I'm curious to look them up on tirerack.com. It seems like pretty much all the OEM car tires suck in the snow. Honestly, I'm surprised the manufacturers don't see it as a liability and sell something that is useful.
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