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Old 10-10-2011, 12:50 PM   #351
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I don't have MFT on my car(thank god),and noticed that this system has been under fire in the news.In Canada most provinces are banning cell phone use in cars,and at the same time,many are questionning the use of overcomplicated software to manage basic car systems like heat,A/C and the radio.
Ford is not the first car manifacturer to introduce this kind of software,but it made available in cars that most of us can afford.So more and more people are busy struggling with that software to start the radio or AC instead of watching the road.I only got "mykey" and I was surprised on how much attention this thing was getting.So ,I can only imagine how dangerous using MFT can be while driving.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:13 AM   #352
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Just test drove a new Focus. Love everything about the car except.... the transmission. Car had 46 miles on it. From a stop it is just awful, stepping on gas and waiting... waiting... waiting and now we are going. At lower speeds, under 35 it just could not figure out a gear to be in.

Any suggestions? I will go back and test a car with more miles on it and see if it is any different. New car must have trans that works better than a 13 yo Subaru Outback we are replacing.

Oh, and this is the first time my shadow has ever darkened an American auto makers showroom.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:40 AM   #353
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Just test drove a new Focus. Love everything about the car except.... the transmission. Car had 46 miles on it. From a stop it is just awful, stepping on gas and waiting... waiting... waiting and now we are going. At lower speeds, under 35 it just could not figure out a gear to be in.

Any suggestions? I will go back and test a car with more miles on it and see if it is any different. New car must have trans that works better than a 13 yo Subaru Outback we are replacing.

Oh, and this is the first time my shadow has ever darkened an American auto makers showroom.
If you like size of the car but want something more reliable with a better resale value,go for the Mazda3.For 2012 Mazda just came out with their "Skyactiv" gimmick that looks a lot like Fords tech,but you can still get the conventionnal and reliable old engines and transmissions.I would stick with the old tech until the "Skyactiv" thing has proven it's reliability in a few years.

If you're gonna go for Ford,make sure you do a long road test with the car you want to buy and NOT with the demo car.Because once you bought it ,good luck if you got problems.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:17 PM   #354
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Just test drove a new Focus. Love everything about the car except.... the transmission. Car had 46 miles on it. From a stop it is just awful, stepping on gas and waiting... waiting... waiting and now we are going. At lower speeds, under 35 it just could not figure out a gear to be in.

Any suggestions? I will go back and test a car with more miles on it and see if it is any different. New car must have trans that works better than a 13 yo Subaru Outback we are replacing.

Oh, and this is the first time my shadow has ever darkened an American auto makers showroom.


The behaviour of the transmission seems to be one of the top confusions among new owners and those looking at purchasing.
If you want a bit more zip from take-off and in general, you need to drop it into the select shift. Even then there is a bit of a delay in manual. Computer signals and processing when stepping on the accelerator are too mindful on fuel economy I think.
I just had mine in and was griping about this. Some delays are 2 seconds. My issue was intermittent. Sometime good and properly responsive, sometimes not. i think they did some update (not sure as the invoice was not written up when I picked it up). It is a bit better, but is really not as much of a difference as I would like, especially at take-off.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:25 PM   #355
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My update at 3500KM:


1) Loose upper strut tower bearing on right side found at 1200KM now fixed as of last week (took about a month to get parts! )

2) Defective PS rear speaker (also found at 1200KM)-- still waiting on the part (now told a total lead time of two months as the first one Ford shipped was the wrong-- that wrong one took about a month to get.

3) 'Acceleration hesitation'/transmission responsiveness. Had car in last week for this too. Don't know what they did but there is a mild-- MILD improvement... might even just be power of suggestion. Take-off power still sucks with a clocked 2 second delay most times.
In general stepping on the gas requires 2 second count before there is any action. There is no discernible consistency though, so I can't adjust my driving habits to accommodate the mechanics!
About a dozen times there has been a "thud" in the front end on acceleration. First time I though I hit a dog or something. I don't know how else to explain this.
I would like to have this modded somehow as Ford likely can't. Any ideas?!

4) black screen (still only one incident so far that I 'fixed' myself with the fuse pull).

5) paint defect about the size of a silver dollar on DS above rear door on roof. Need to make a body shop appointment yet.

6) Trunk gas prop defective. Does not stay up below +7 degree weather. Can't get dealer to replace as they need to see it happen.

7) Sound system has delays sometimes. I press "next" and have to wait 5-10 seconds before it advances to next song. Only occurs on USB, that I know of.

8) Key-less door locks not working consistently (started at 2000KM). no, it is not me. ;) I have read the manual, forum posts and the like and there are times when it just simply fails to work the way it is supposed to.

9) Failed to start once. Still don't know why.

10) Wind shield wiper on driver side has defect.

11) Design issue: I just tried to give someone a boost today... WOW, won't be doing that in the bitter cold of winter. Way too hard to get at the negative post on the battery as it is tucked in too far to get at with booster cables. I may have to run a shielded and capped wire from it to have it accessible! I average 3-4 boosts for people each winter.

12) Design/material issue: B-pillar plastic is very much subject to scratches. I'll be covering this with a scratch guard material.




Now officially not happy.

Stuff is defective. I get that. As a QA professional and change specialist for the last 16 years I have some measure of awareness and 'tolerance' to defects existing in our products.
What I can't tolerate is the amount of issues that are emerging on this $27,000+ vehicle, how they are intermittent and the off-shoot of them being the time and energy that my wife and I will be spending to coordinate appointments, travel to two ford locations for repairs (both of which have NO courtesy cars). Also will have to do some personal modding. That is why I bought a new car-- to avoid this type of lifestyle of screwing around to through good money and time after bad.
The intermittent issues add to my lost time to get the dealers to deal with as they can't replace what appears to work for them.

All with in 4 months of owning (to end of this year), I estimate we will be using over 10+ hours of personal and business time, be without a vehicle for about 40 hours and spend over $200.00 in rentals/cabs.

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Old 10-11-2011, 02:26 PM   #356
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Gee , I guess I'm lucky 900 miles so far and no problems..
xmission is funky, but I'll wait as the dealer "Told me to wait"
After all he is a dealer, and they would never lie to you

You guys obviously have never owned SAABs before...
My 95 wagon drove like hell (between repairs)..
SAAB treated every failure on their new cars as a "Feature"
and that you were lucky to have one

if it isn't running, you can't get into an accident

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The "wait" thing that you were told is likely just they don't have a 'fix' for it, and there is an idea that YOU will get accustom to it if you wait.
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If your tranny is not shifting properly, something is bad wrong. Mine shifts effortlessly, never feel it!
My dealer said, "That's how these transmissions work."

Are you telling me your car doesn't crunch when decelerating or rattle when shifting from 3rd to 4th? Hmm - there must be something wrong with your car, because Ford made it clear that mine was working as designed.
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Just test drove a new Focus. Love everything about the car except.... the transmission. I will go back and test a car with more miles on it and see if it is any different.
Oh, and this is the first time my shadow has ever darkened an American auto makers showroom.
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If you're gonna go for Ford,make sure you do a long road test with the car you want to buy.

Welcome, fishey72! I'm thrilled to see your interest in Ford. Beepster had a good suggestion of test-driving the Focus you are interested in. The dry dual-clutch gearbox uses electronics to change gears instead of hydraulic pressure, which results in different sounds and sensations than basic automatics. Let me know if I can answer any questions, or help find a Focus.

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What I can't tolerate is the amount of issues that are emerging on this $27,000+ vehicle, how they are intermittent and the off-shoot of them being the time and energy that my wife and I will be spending to coordinate appointments, travel to two ford locations for repairs (both of which have NO courtesy cars).
Hey DanteCaspian,

Have you contacted Ford of Canada at 800.565.3673? If so, and you are still unsatisfied, PM me your VIN, contact information, mileage, & last servicing dealer name/location so I can help.

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Gee , I guess I'm lucky 900 miles so far and no problems..xmission is funky, but I'll wait as the dealer "Told me to wait"
adamc - If your 'funky' transmission is concerning, please PM me your info (VIN, contact information, mileage, & servicing dealer name/state) and I will assist. Thanks!

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