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Old 06-12-2011, 11:05 AM   #291
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Actually to prime the oil pump took a bit longer than I expected, it is a good possibility, the head may be saved not sure about the cams though.

Quick question, after installing a Torsen and having the 2 front tires in the air if you spin one manually (in neutral), does the other wheel turns in the opposite direction or they both move freely regardless like an open diff. Read a bunch and still not sure, it should work as an open diff until torque is applied unless preloaded (shimming)?
Yes with a Diff if you spin one side the other side will spin in the opposite direction.
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Old 06-12-2011, 12:28 PM   #292
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Yes with a Diff if you spin one side the other side will spin in the opposite direction.
Mine doesn't, since the tranny is out wanted to make sure before installing it back. More for me!!
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Been reading VW and Honda forums on the PTE 5857 and other journal bearings, Precision says not to use a restrictor and I followed the instructions but some are running .065, am I draining too much oil from the head and starving the cams (fed behind the coil pack close to the damage cam)?

Edit: should have mention I'm running a -4 oil feed and -10 return with 10w-30.
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I also run a -4 oil feed with no restrictor and have been for 10 year with over 250 laps at VIR 3.2 mile track and over 400 1/4 mile passes where I do a lot of testing , for years and about 80-90 turbo kits I used the -4 oil feed and never any issues with the cams , I doubt seriously thats your issue

Only way your starving the cams is if you have issues with the oil passages to the head , from what I see from the cams you had trash go through the cam oil passages all the plugs have to come out of the head or stuff gets trapped and comes loose when you get oil flowing

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I also run a -4 oil feed with no restrictor and have been for 10 year with over 250 laps at VIR 3.2 mile track and over 400 1/4 mile passes where I do a lot of testing , for years and about 80-90 turbo kits I used the -4 oil feed and never any issues with the cams , I doubt seriously thats your issue

Only way your starving the cams is if you have issues with the oil passages to the head , from what I see from the cams you had trash go through the cam oil passages all the plugs have to come out of the head or stuff gets trapped and comes loose when you get oil flowing

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Thanks again Tom, will know for sure Monday or Tuesday if the cams can be saved. As for the Torsen acting as an open diff, do you think is a shimming/preload issue?
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I also run a -4 oil feed with no restrictor and have been for 10 year with over 250 laps at VIR 3.2 mile track and over 400 1/4 mile passes where I do a lot of testing , for years and about 80-90 turbo kits I used the -4 oil feed and never any issues with the cams , I doubt seriously thats your issue

Only way your starving the cams is if you have issues with the oil passages to the head , from what I see from the cams you had trash go through the cam oil passages all the plugs have to come out of the head or stuff gets trapped and comes loose when you get oil flowing

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Tom you are right again, out of the machine shop (couldn't wait for Monday) and he told me exactly what you said, debris in the oil passages, good thing is it all can be saved. Going to p&p, 5 angle valve job and new cam and valve seals. Let me know your thoughts on the Torsen.
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I have seen a lot of that over the years , Glad it can be saved

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Quick question, after installing a Torsen and having the 2 front tires in the air if you spin one manually (in neutral), does the other wheel turns in the opposite direction or they both move freely regardless like an open diff. Read a bunch and still not sure, it should work as an open diff until torque is applied unless preloaded (shimming)?
Straight from Torsen,
"If you put the car in drive, where you have friction on the driveline, you
should be able to turn the one tire and watch the other side turn in the
opposite direction.

Thanks for the question and interest in Torsen!"

What do you guys think?
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You said you spun the tires in neutral and they told you to put the car in gear....so you need to test that.
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You said you spun the tires in neutral and they told you to put the car in gear....so you need to test that.
Yes but I know Fernando's and Chris (Earls) cars both do it in neutral and mine doesn't. Guess will have to open it and see if it's broken or needs shimming/preload.
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