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Old 05-24-2011, 04:33 AM   #31
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^^The last paragraph is a common theme with HID in stock housing haters. I also bring up the point that I am blinded by more BMWs and TLs then anything. Many will blind you for miles.
I have run everything from stock housing, ebay projectors, to my current MACH HID headlights and have only gotten flashed using the MACHs which have crappy output comparably.
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:35 AM   #32
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There are a few cars that had very specifically designed reflector housings meant for HIDs. The Focus definitely does not have these. And they weren't especially effective anyway, hence why you never see them anymore.

I hold to my opinion. If you have drop-in HIDs, your car is a public danger and general nuisance. Law enforcement agrees. Not to mention, it looks cheap as hell, and makes people like me point and laugh.
I'm on the same page as you. Read my posts and you'll see I'm critical of people who put HID's in reflectors meant for halogen bulbs.
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First, I have been one of those in the past who did put HID's in stock reflectors. I took them out after about one month. I now have HID's in projectors. There is a difference in having them work properly (to give maximum illumination) and not cast light in all directions.

However, I am not going to continue this argument as it is obvious that those who want to put them in are just going to, and this argument is pointless.

Also, considering you claim to be ex-law enforcement, I am surprised that you are willing to put something illegal in your car. Most cops will never pull anyone over for that, but that doesn't make it legal.

Just like MysticblueBMW, I will no longer be commenting on this point as it falls on deaf (and stubborn) ears.
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The European Focus ST will have OEM HID headlights. Does anyone know if the USA version is slated for HID as well?
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The European Focus ST will have OEM HID headlights. Does anyone know if the USA version is slated for HID as well?
I sure hope so or I will be very disappointed.
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Also, considering you claim to be ex-law enforcement, I am surprised that you are willing to put something illegal in your car. Most cops will never pull anyone over for that, but that doesn't make it legal.
Please cite. Remember there's 49 other states besides yours, and they all have different laws. I just searched the Michigan compiled laws and found no mention of the use of HID lights, or the legality of installing them. All that is covered is where the lights must be aimed, and what must be illuminated. Unless that is covered in federal law, which I HIGHLY doubt.
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The European Focus ST will have OEM HID headlights. Does anyone know if the USA version is slated for HID as well?

The European Focus non-ST has OEM HID headlights... and the USA version does not so it's never a given.
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Please cite. Remember there's 49 other states besides yours, and they all have different laws. I just searched the Michigan compiled laws and found no mention of the use of HID lights, or the legality of installing them. All that is covered is where the lights must be aimed, and what must be illuminated. Unless that is covered in federal law, which I HIGHLY doubt.
Still not commenting, just providing requested source.

Here you go - 49 CFR 571.108

Pay particular attention to paragraphs S5.8 and S7.7
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>>>>The European Focus non-ST has OEM HID headlights... and the USA version does not so it's never a given.

Kinda my concern. We bought the Focus kind of as a joke waiting for Catena to get the new E-Series Cabriolet in. We'd turned in the CLK and there was a 6 month gap between the CLK and arrival of the new E-Cabs. I needed something to drive in the interim and called the folks we buy all of our trucks from and told them "cheap and tomorrow" and they delivered a 2010 Focus.

I laughed at first and then drove the thing. Not only did the car cost less new than the option packages on the MB, it's gosh darn fun to drive. I do production test riding of motorcycles and had to drive to a meeting about 1,500 miles away and the darn thing got something like 37.4 MPG.

So . . . the Focus has become a "keeper" and the 2010 (it's only really sore spot is the crummy lights) will get swapped for a 2012 ST (if they have bi-xenon option) and will be kept at the house as a spare.

Fun stuff.
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Old 05-24-2011, 02:33 PM   #40
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lol

all I can do is laugh at all the ones talking shit about HID in a reflector headlight.. My buddy got flashed more times in one week in his 2011 Range Rover with FACTORY HID then I did in 5 years of HID in NON projector headlights. Which I aimed down and still covered more distance of the road then any halogen will come close to. Also like the ones who said they made cars with factory HID in a reflective light are right, 2004 body style Escalade.. what kind of lights r in those? hid 4300k in a reflective light..

Also I asked for HELP, not for lip of people about there opinion.. This forum is to help people, so if you cant help then mind your business and keep to yourself..

FYI only car/truck in my family that doesnt have HIDs is my 2010 Fusion with projectors and none of my trucks EVER get flashed.. even when I drove from FL to Nashville with a lifted F350 with 6000k hid never once got flashed or had a problem.. So learn ur facts on adjusting ur lights safely before you commenting on your neighbors pos tahoe

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